Cooper zeon RS3-A made China...bummer

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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: ddtmoto
I love Michelins, but 50% more? Ouch! I just couldn't make the leap at this time...Maybe next go'round...


Well, they are an ultra-performance tire. There are other, less expensive options from Michelin that are priced lower.


I switched from PS2's to the PSS's on the Volvo, such an awesome tire. The PS2s were great and did not disappoint in the 20k or so miles they lasted. The PO of the Volvo put Capitol Negotiators on the car before it was traded in, going from those to real performance tires was night and day. The Super Sport is just as good if not better than the PS2s.
 
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
I'm sad, but if the rumors are right, Cooper may have more made in China tires......


they all have made in china tires now.

you just have to buy the non-chinese ones.


michelin etc all have plants in china.
 
O, one nice thing about the Pilot Super Sports on my Volvo, they are Made in the USA. The PS2's before were made in Brazil.

As for Cooper, I don't think I have ever seen a Cooper not made in China in the past few years. We have sold a few when customers want a cheap tire and they all seem to be from China.
 
while I dont necessarily buy into the china is inferior I'd be a fool to not see their previous track record of fail.

lead in childrens toys, poisoned milk etc.
it only takes one guy trying to skim a penny to possibly compromise the product.
And of course I dont particularly like buying made in china. Much prefer usa/first world items when possible.

I'd be satisfied if they used their china plants to supply china with goods.
 
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Originally Posted By: volk06
A Cooper tire made in CHINA? The inevitable has come, I've always bought cooper tires due to being made in the USA. I didnt know that some were made in China. Seems cooper tires are popular in China.
I found the info here:
http://coopertire.com/About-Us/Facilities/Manufacturing-Facilities.aspx

Heres a list of all the cooper brands and more info!
http://coopertire.com/About-Us/Our-Company.aspx


Cooper has made Roadmaster (and I think Starfire) tires in China for years.
 
There are lots of new cars in China, and therefore it make sense that they have a national rubber reserve and a lot of tire factories for their own consumption as well as export.

There are still lots of US made tires (as well as Japanese, European, Korean, Latin American, Indonesian, etc). My recent purchase of Dunlop SP Sport 7000 is made in US, and my recent purchase of General Evertrek HP (Walmart) is made in France. Neither are expensive model. You just have to check before you buy if you don't want Chinese tires.

My guess is they already have a line in China building the tires for their local sales so they just make extra for export.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
We can't even make our own tires anymore...this is beyond ridiculous...


It is sad
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Originally Posted By: Rand
Originally Posted By: daves87rs
I'm sad, but if the rumors are right, Cooper may have more made in China tires......


they all have made in china tires now.

you just have to buy the non-chinese ones.


michelin etc all have plants in china.


I meant bye bye us plants....
 
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: grampi
We can't even make our own tires anymore...this is beyond ridiculous...


It is sad
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Tariffs....please.
Why should China get an unfair trade advantage with the US, Canada, or for that matter any other first world nation that has respect for their citizens?
 
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Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: grampi
We can't even make our own tires anymore...this is beyond ridiculous...


It is sad
frown.gif



Tariffs....please.
Why should China get an unfair trade advantage with the US, Canada, or for that matter any other first world nation that has respect for their citizens?


...because government's respect for its citizenry is matched only by corporations' respect for their employees and their customers...

Manufacturing corporations operate with no allegiance to any country or to any country's citizens....

Governments for centuries have allowed corporations to abandon employees as they shift production first from one part of a country to another and then across national boundries to the cheapest labor market they can find around the world
...governments lured by the twin corporate promises of employment and payroll taxes
...citizens lured with visions of ever cheaper prices for the products....
 
Yes, and have you noticed the price of tires lately? Even though more and more of our tires are now being made overseas, I'm not seeing prices go down. In fact, tire prices just keep going up. Where's the lower prices we should be seeing due to the lower cost of labor? I'll tell you where that money's going, straight into the pockets of tire company execs. It's the same story with all of the U.S. businesses that outsource. They try to justify their actions by claiming they can't compete if they make their products here in the states by U.S. workers, but at the same time they're not passing on the savings to consumers from the lower cost of labor as a result of outsourcing. Top execs are simply increasing their profits. So the bottom line here is, the American worker is worse off due to outsourcing, the American consumer is no better off because we're not getting the reduced cost of making the products passed along to us, so as I see it, the only people making out here are the business owners.
 
Originally Posted By: ddtmoto
I did have a set of Korean made Michelins that came oem on a Kia that were inferior to 'real' Michelins. Tough to trust anyone these days...


Sounds like a typical OE tire (regardless of brand).
 
Originally Posted By: RiceCake
Don't worry, I'm sure they're just as good as a tire that says Made in USA on it.

Likely would be made in the same factory even.


No joke, the 2nd to last Moen faucet I bought said "Made in U.S.A." on the box, but the tax sticker said China, it even had the city of origin, Zhongsheng, or something like that. The quality, packaging, &c. didn't vary one bit from other Moen faucets I have purchased in the past, and I bought it at Home Depot in Veracruz, so I don't think it was counterfeit. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if "Made in U.S.A." and Made in China products were made in the same factory.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Yes, and have you noticed the price of tires lately? Even though more and more of our tires are now being made overseas, I'm not seeing prices go down. In fact, tire prices just keep going up. Where's the lower prices we should be seeing due to the lower cost of labor?


There was a natural rubber shortage a few years ago that started the huge tire price hike. I remember reading an article that said new rubber trees would start harvesting at about now.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
We can't even make our own tires anymore...this is beyond ridiculous...


Not really when you read the board with a non US perspective.

If you want tyres with 50 or 60 thousand mile tread warranties and oil for $3/4 a quart and tools for next to nothing what do you expect.

Business is about profit.

If the consumer is intent on lower and lower prices above all else then companies will outsource to save as much as possible.

Similar thing is happening in the UK at the moment.

I now actively avoid Chinese goods if possible.

Sometimes it isn't possible, like if you want an iPhone for example.
 
Are you sure you didnt include oils prices in there from jealousy
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because I dont think its a relevant part of your argument.
 
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Originally Posted By: grampi
We can't even make our own tires anymore...this is beyond ridiculous...


Not really when you read the board with a non US perspective.

If you want tyres with 50 or 60 thousand mile tread warranties and oil for $3/4 a quart and tools for next to nothing what do you expect.

Business is about profit.

If the consumer is intent on lower and lower prices above all else then companies will outsource to save as much as possible.

Similar thing is happening in the UK at the moment.

I now actively avoid Chinese goods if possible.

Sometimes it isn't possible, like if you want an iPhone for example.


I think you missed my point. Let me ask you this; what products have gone down in price due to the lower cost of labor by having the stuff made overseas? The answer is none have. We pay more for goods today than we've ever paid, so that tells me the money that's being saved with cheaper labor isn't being passed along to consumers, it's going straight into the pockets of business owners...making a profit is one thing, raping consumers is another...
 
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