Those are good saws, unfortunately the new Stihls are a far cry from what they used to be.I've had the predecessor to the MS250 since the 90's. It has been stellar and got me out of a few post hurricane messes
back in Florida. It was my only saw back then and I have several others now but I'll never get rid of my 025.
I would buy a new MS250 if I was in the market for one. It's the perfect saw for a homeowner who only has one saw and wants something that's a step up from what you get at the big box stores without paying for a professional saw.
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In what way are the new Stihls not as good?Those are good saws, unfortunately the new Stihls are a far cry from what they used to be.![]()
The build quality just isn't there, especially on the plastic homeowner models. When I used to fix a lot of them, I'd see really dumb issues like leaking fuel tanks, fuel lines, oil tanks dumping oil everywhere through the hose, all on brand new saws. When my customers went to get a warranty claim they were always denied and Stihl considered it "owner abuse". Auto-tune saws were a whole different issue. I had one customer who brought his brand new auto-tune saw back 7 times to the dealer before he just insisted they take it back and make it right.In what way are the new Stihls not as good?
It a color thing.Kubota places also seem to stock echo equipment.
not sure, stihl is orange too.It a color thing.
When did Stihl start making chainsaws in China? From having an fs-38 trimmer I don't think I've ever seen a Stihl product that was made in China. I though all of their engines were manufactured here or in Germany.I bought the stihl chainsaw because of the reputation of the dealer but when I needed a leaf blower I bought the echo conveniently at the local home hardware. If I had an issue they would probably be good about exchange or repair but it's been good other than some weird thing where it doesn't run full speed until it's been warmed up a while. Not a bad thing but it seems to take a while and initially cycles between the full speed and reduced speed before it finally stays on full speed. Other people complained about this issue too but it starts and runs good and exhaust sounds great at idle despite having a catalytic converter.
My dad actually has the 261c and he's had no issues with that one. If I have a big tree to cut I'm calling him over.
Btw my Stihl chainsaw is made in china. The echo blower is made in USA as is my 10 year old sthl fs40 trimmer.
I've seen some of the lower end homeowner saws and some of the blowers say made in China on them, but they were all newer pieces of equipment. The older Stihls are still decent, but I wouldn't buy any newer ones.When did Stihl start making chainsaws in China? From having an fs-38 trimmer I don't think I've ever seen a Stihl product that was made in China. I though all of their engines were manufactured here or in Germany.
Everything I can find suggests the MS 250 is built in the USA, but even the Stihl page for this model is vague. It says "A majority of Stihl products are made in the USA", but it does not 100% say this saw is.Dissing on Stihl seems to be in fashion at the moment.
When just about every landscaping and logging crew stops using Stihl I will look into it.
Dissing on Stihl seems to be in fashion at the moment.
Yeah. I've asked several lawn crews in the area and the one commercial lawn company that works several local apartments. They all have Stihl, and walker mowers. Apparently the customer service experience is top notch. Eh oh well.Dissing on Stihl seems to be in fashion at the moment.
When just about every landscaping and logging crew stops using Stihl I will look into it.
Yes but this a big but most only run pro models not homeowner models.Dissing on Stihl seems to be in fashion at the moment.
When just about every landscaping and logging crew stops using Stihl I will look into it.
The commercial companies near me usually switch equipment out every couple years or so, and yes they only buy the pro models. They also buy what equipment brands have dealers close by. We have Scag, Exmark, and Deere dealers close by, so that is usually what they use.Yes but this a big but most only run pro models not homeowner models.
My dad's ms261c I'm sure is not made in china but my homeowner ms170c is. I don't have any compla other than the fussy starting on it but I may have gotten the hang of it.I've seen some of the lower end homeowner saws and some of the blowers say made in China on them, but they were all newer pieces of equipment. The older Stihls are still decent, but I wouldn't buy any newer ones.
Stihl dominates the pro saw market, but husqvarna makes some nice pro saws as well. I have no experience with echo. I try to stay away from that homeowner junk across all brands. The build quality can be questionable.
However an ms250 is a fine saw, and they are easy to work on too. I’ve owned both the 025 and the 250 and they have been great. Ms290,310, and 390 are decent saws too. Heavy and underpowered but reliable.
Anyone who wants a 50cc lightweight saw I always suggest trying to find a husky 346xp, 550xp mark 2 or a Stihl ms261. Not cheap but they are lightweight and will last a lifetime with proper care.