College automotive oil change.

[The motor guy]

Im taking a automotive class and we did oil changes today. Man did some of those guys put those oil filters on tight. They are going to have a fun time the next time they change their oil. The guy in my group must have done two full turns after the gasket made contact. lol. I kept telling him it was good but he just kept on going.

 

[BeanCounter]

You mean, they don't teach you to use Loc-Tite on oil filter threads at your school?

 

[The motor guy]

I think the sad part is the teacher was watching when he was doing that. He didn't even say anything.

 

[The motor guy]

Don't you mean super glue? lol No but seriously it just kills me to think that if someone didn't know how to change the oil in that class they probably went home still not knowing how to do it. Nobody ever mentions the details. The details keep you out of trouble.

 

[Johnny]

Well, that is a good way to split the oil filter gasket. Talk about leaking.

 

[KrisZ]

No amount of schooling will equate real life experience.
Trust me, once these guys fight the filter for a couple of hours and frantically use every available wrench type they have to no avail, then pray that the last ditch effort of piercing the filter with a screwdriver works, they will not make this mistake again.

 

[sunfire]

Originally Posted By: Johnny
Well, that is a good way to split the oil filter gasket. Talk about leaking.


I was just about to say the same thing. Over tightening may cause leaks.

 

[SZR48207]

The best gauge of filter torque I've found is with an oil soaked hand (inevitable due to the filter being mounted at an angle and a lower crossmember that is a pooling spot for old oil), turn the filter until my hand starts slipping from the oil.

Works every time.

 

[lexus114]

Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I think the sad part is the teacher was watching when he was doing that. He didn't even say anything.


Because he probably does the same friggin thing!

 

[BeanCounter]

Originally Posted By: Reddy45
The best gauge of filter torque I've found is with an oil soaked hand (inevitable due to the filter being mounted at an angle and a lower crossmember that is a pooling spot for old oil), turn the filter until my hand starts slipping from the oil.

Works every time.


Yeah, if you have at least a decent amount of upper body strength you don't really need to tighten more than "hand tight".

 

[J. A. Rizzo]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ
No amount of schooling will equate real life experience.
Trust me, once these guys fight the filter for a couple of hours and frantically use every available wrench type they have to no avail, then pray that the last ditch effort of piercing the filter with a screwdriver works, they will not make this mistake again.


Actually, I think they will wind up employing power tools to remove the filter, then join BITOG to start a thread about how the filters stink because the threads and gasket must be junk, then go apply for a job at a quick lube shop and eventually get fired for stripping out the threads of an aluminum oil pan that requires dropping the engine cradle to change. I've seen it a thousand times.

 

[ryan2022]

Originally Posted By: BeanCounter
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
The best gauge of filter torque I've found is with an oil soaked hand (inevitable due to the filter being mounted at an angle and a lower crossmember that is a pooling spot for old oil), turn the filter until my hand starts slipping from the oil.

Works every time.


Yeah, if you have at least a decent amount of upper body strength you don't really need to tighten more than "hand tight".


ditto. Hand tight is even overkill with some bog bruiser mechanics.

JB Weld the sucker in.

 

[mechtech2]

I think the best way to ''unlearn' over tightening oil filters is a boss who screams at you . One who lays down the law about not more than 1 turn past contact.

Note that every military in the world utilizes sergeants to perform this effective technique!