Chevy Volt cause of garage fire?

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Friday, Apr 15th, 2011 @ 4:50 p.m.

A Chevrolet Volt is being investigated for a fire that destroyed a garage and a custom-made electric vehicle in rural Connecticut.


Authorities have not placed a blame for the fire, although reports out of the area suggest that the Volt is one of several potential suspects. The garage was about 40 years old and it also stored a Suzuki Samurai that had been converted to electric drive by the owners, Storm and Dee Connors.

“I walked outside and looked in the garage door and it was flaming,” Dee Connors told WFSB. “I grabbed a pocketbook so I’d have a cellphone and a driver’s license and a jacket and a pair of slacks. I had no shoes, my feet were freezing.”

Given the age of the home, wiring deterioration is also an obvious suspect.

Reports say that nearly 50 firefighters helped put out the blaze. A fire wall between the house and the garage kept the couple’s belongings safe.

GM responds
General Motors says that it is working with local authorities to track down the root of the fire. The automaker says it has spoken to a fire investigator and that it will be cooperating in the investigation.

GM responded that the Volt has several safety precautions in place designed to prevent fires from occurring should a fault be detected in the charging system. In Leftlane’s own testing, a media fleet Volt was quick to trip one fuse, which in turn shut off charging of the vehicle.
 
I guess I'm confused why this is even a topic without knowing exactly what happened. While I'm no fan of the Volt, it is silly and invites unnecessary flaming (no pun intended) of the vehicle without knowing what exactly happened. The author automatically attempts to tie the Volt name with failure. Check back when, and if, the Volt was the cause of the fire.
 
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The garage was 40 years old (which means it may have been wired with aluminum), not to mention I've seen some pretty shoddy DIY wiring before.
 
Two out of three chance it wasn't the Volt.
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1. theory: he did the samurai himself, presumably. It's his baby, he's had it for years, nary a problem, so in his mind it's "reliable."

2. adds a Volt to the stable, garage burns down.... can't be his tried-and-true baby.

3. agree- I'd think it's the charging load. AL wiring was most common around hear from... 69-72 based on what the inspector told me. (??) That's right at 40 years..... I wonder if he had home runs in his garage or a sub-panel.

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Originally Posted By: ryansride2017
I guess I'm confused why this is even a topic without knowing exactly what happened. While I'm no fan of the Volt, it is silly and invites unnecessary flaming (no pun intended) of the vehicle without knowing what exactly happened. The author automatically attempts to tie the Volt name with failure. Check back when, and if, the Volt was the cause of the fire.


Agreed 100%

There are more unknowns than knowns in this story at this point.

Was there a charging station installed in this garage?
If no charging station was installed, how many circuits does the garage have? Were both cars being charged from the same 110v circuit?
Were both cars being charged at the time of the fire? Were EITHER of the cars being charged at the time of the fire?
What type of wiring is used in this garage, and how many seperate 110v circuits are wired in the garage?

But then again, sites like LeftLane get paid on advertising based on the number of hits they get. How many hits would they get if they waited for the facts? Better for them and their bottom line to create a news story where none exists imo.
 
Originally Posted By: Colt
Two out of three chance it wasn't the Volt.
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First off there are far more than three possible causes here. Even if there were only three possible causes, you still have to factor in probability somehow.

The probability that the Volt car itself caused this fire are very slim. The likliehood of faulty home/garage wiring, improper charging station wiring, overloading of an existing 110v circuit or other user fault are far greater.
 
Originally Posted By: ryansride2017
I guess I'm confused why this is even a topic without knowing exactly what happened. While I'm no fan of the Volt, it is silly and invites unnecessary flaming (no pun intended) of the vehicle without knowing what exactly happened. The author automatically attempts to tie the Volt name with failure. Check back when, and if, the Volt was the cause of the fire.


Someone posted a similar topic thread the other day, but I think it disappeared. Several news stories never even mentioned there was an owner converted electric Samurai in the garage too at the time. I had to do a little digging to find that out then. The way some of those news stories were presented it appeared the Volt was the only electric vehicle in the garage and that it was the most likely culprit of the fire.
 
Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS


The probability that the Volt car itself caused this fire are very slim. The likliehood of faulty home/garage wiring, improper charging station wiring, overloading of an existing 110v circuit or other user fault are far greater.


I completely agree, but this may be an issue for electric cars over whether the owner's facility can safely recharge an electric car.
 
I'm guessing the Volt probably had to meet more safety standards than that house or Samurai ever did. It is most likely that the car with new wiring installed in a factory with stringent quality controls is not the cause of the fire. Just a guess though.
 
The media looking for a story and they will walk the line of integrity and facts.
 
Nearly all outlets in the typical home in the USA are 120V. The only exceptions are for an electric dryer, some large window/wall air conditioners, and electric stoves. These are 240V.

So, yes we do plug electric jugs into a 120V outlet, there isn't likely to be a 240V outlet for it. I should note that the 120V outlets in a kitchen are required to be on a 20-amp circuit, but that is the only place where such a requirement exists. Other 120V circuits can be 15 amps (with the exception of dedicated circuits, such as for a window/wall air conditioner and in that case you follow the instructions for the dedicated load. If it says to use a 120V 20 amp circuit, you do that).
 
A proper volt charging station is supposed to be wired to 240V. The 120VAC charging functions of the Volt are really for when there is no other option. I believe that most of the timing, automation, pre-warming/cooling functionality is all disabled on 120VAC according to the material I was given quite some time ago.
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
The only exceptions are for an electric dryer, some large window/wall air conditioners, and electric stoves. These are 240V.


I should say the only common exceptions..because I know that someone, somewhere, has a 240V welder outlet in their living room, but that's hardly common.
 
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