Charge and Drive

Yea except the government did not invest in gas stations or paved roads until they needed it for defense. No one asked the farmer with a horse to pay for paving the road for a car and gas taxes pay for ICE roads, who pays for EV charger roads.
If you're defense reference is to the Eisenhower interstate system, then surely you jest.
Are you saying all roads for cars were privately funded until the government needed to expand the road system for defense? That would be a hopelessly ignorant position.

Please clarify.......
 
I think this is an idea whose time has come again (1890s photo)…


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I’m only half kidding. If you want efficient charging (and induction over a big air gap like road to car isn’t efficient) then make the charger set up a whip and a cable. Deploy the whip from your EV, pick up some juice, retract the whip. It’s capable of very high current... I’m sure Elon can come up with a cool looking charging whip with a hip name.
 
If you're defense reference is to the Eisenhower interstate system, then surely you jest.
Are you saying all roads for cars were privately funded until the government needed to expand the road system for defense? That would be a hopelessly ignorant position.

Please clarify.......
Roads being constructed in early part of the 20th century were for transport by wagons, horses, humans and some public transportation in the cities. Paved roads were only found in cities. Until the automobile became hugely popular and and the large powerful car makers started pushing for more paved road to help sales of their cars and most roads were not even roads they were just paths worn by wagons between places. Not until cars outnumbered horses was there any real push for roads and most townships constructed these as each town decided they needed them. The Federal push for a highway system started during the 1st WW as transporting troops across the country on muddy trails and dirt roads through towns, but even then they left the construction up to towns and counties and some roads only ran paved through 4 or 5 mile stretches because the next town did not have the money to pave. When EV's take either the majority or a very large percentage of highway travel then Charge and Drive might be something to consider but NOT for less than 1% of the vehicles on the road.
 
I have an idea... if charging in motion is the goal why not install a wind turbine to the roof of EVs to take advantage of movement at very little real cost?

That's the fun bit about physics. A roof-mounted wind turbine, just like a wheel-mounted alternator, will always be a net loss. The imposed aero drag will increase the rate of discharge beyond the rate of charge achieved by the device.

Even if you covered the entire vehicle in solar panels, the actual impact on range increase would be minuscule because they are so energy diffuse.

Now of course, if you were just being sarcastic, then carry on.
 
This reminds me of another hair brained scheme in MI quite some years ago. They mounted a bunch of S shaped tiny windmills on the median barrier. Idea was to capture the wind from the cars passing both directions to spin the tiny electric "Generators" and patch it to the grid. The logistics of doing this were so economically out of whack it makes you wonder how rational beings would turn it into an actual trial.
 
Roads being constructed in early part of the 20th century were for transport by wagons, horses, humans and some public transportation in the cities. Paved roads were only found in cities. Until the automobile became hugely popular and and the large powerful car makers started pushing for more paved road to help sales of their cars and most roads were not even roads they were just paths worn by wagons between places. Not until cars outnumbered horses was there any real push for roads and most townships constructed these as each town decided they needed them. The Federal push for a highway system started during the 1st WW as transporting troops across the country on muddy trails and dirt roads through towns, but even then they left the construction up to towns and counties and some roads only ran paved through 4 or 5 mile stretches because the next town did not have the money to pave. When EV's take either the majority or a very large percentage of highway travel then Charge and Drive might be something to consider but NOT for less than 1% of the vehicles on the road.

I can see they start this with some stretch of roads that have mass transit running through them, like buses, airport shuttle, light rail, or container ports, etc. It would be a low hanging fruit to pick if they can use it all the time and reduce charging / fueling time and cost. Once they get that figured out the can expand to public road and open it up for passenger car as a tag along, much lower risk and shorter return on investment time.
 
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I just don’t see how this can work. Expensive as all get out plus the ravages of winter and salt will surely ruin this fine technology.
I see the alternative point of view as "we need to rip things out anyways so we might as well try things out here instead of elsewhere we should not tear out".
 
Plus you'll have people not wanting to leave the intersection, even after the light turns green. :)
You can just stop charging when the light is green, gives them no incentive to stay. Actually come to think of it, I would put it in the middle of intersection instead: because there's always some cars passing through it and it is being used all the time. You can also increase the field strength because it is a short boost of energy instead of a long idle charge, so you don't need to worry about cooling.
 
You can just stop charging when the light is green, gives them no incentive to stay.
If you're 10 cars behind, you'll be stopped longer than the first car at the light. So turning off charging as soon as the light turns green wouldn't maximize charging time for the cars stopped further back. Unless we're talking about a charging area so small that it only benefits the first car at the light and nobody else.
 
If you're 10 cars behind, you'll be stopped longer than the first car at the light. So turning off charging as soon as the light turns green wouldn't maximize charging time for the cars stopped further back. Unless we're talking about a charging area so small that it only benefits the first car at the light and nobody else.
I was thinking only maybe first 3. Why would you build so many spot if not all will be occupied? If anything your money is better spent installing them in more intersections' first 3 spots instead of first 10 spots of fewer intersections.
 
I wonder if there will be warnings posted on the roadway to people who have primitive pace makers? You know, the same warnings that restaurants used to put on the entry doors of a restaurant that used a microwave oven in the kitchen…😂
Kidding, folks. Kidding.
Not kidding. oilBabe has a pacemaker due to an AV node block and we've avoided inductive cooking because it may not play well with her pacemaker.

Not even primitive, it's about 5 years old. She is hand scanned at the airport, no passing through the big metal detector for her. That's pretty low powered and verboten. What sort of havoc would this play with her pacemaker?
 
That's the fun bit about physics. A roof-mounted wind turbine, just like a wheel-mounted alternator, will always be a net loss. The imposed aero drag will increase the rate of discharge beyond the rate of charge achieved by the device.

Even if you covered the entire vehicle in solar panels, the actual impact on range increase would be minuscule because they are so energy diffuse.

Now of course, if you were just being sarcastic, then carry on.
Sarcasm all the way, lmao...
 
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