Charge and Drive

I'm sorry, I dont mean to be a doom and gloom type and I understand that everything new has to start somewhere but highway depts around the country cant keep up with pot holes and road repairs shut down lanes for weeks and sometimes months. Can you imagine the logistics in repairing pot holes in roads with inductive mats or coils buried in them, not to mention the cost to a very limited driver base. Try selling a $1000/yr tax increase to the general public so EV's can charge while driving or tack on $50,000 EV tax to pay for infrastructure that can only be accessed by people in certain high traffic areas.
 
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a doom and gloom type and I understand everything has to start somewhere but road depts around the country can't keep up with potential pot holes and road repair shut down lanes for horses and buggies.

Just last week I blew out a wagon wheel that required me to barter 3 goats to get it fixed.

Can you imagine the logistics of having millions of internal combustion engine buggies on the road????

Try selling a $1000/year tax increase to the general public so ICE vehicles can create pot holes on my buggy lane!!!! Or a $50,000 tax to pay for infrastructure so these crazy guys can drive their ICE's 15,000 miles a year!!!

It boggles the horse and buggy mind!!°
 
...this is a massive money pothole! Inductive charging a phone is very inefficient you can feel that when you pick up the phone and it is hot. Doing so on a roadway is the dumbest idea ever. I might go for solar panels in the roof or small genset in the trunk but inductive charging in the roadway is fantasy island.
 
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a doom and gloom type and I understand everything has to start somewhere but road depts around the country can't keep up with potential pot holes and road repair shut down lanes for horses and buggies.

Just last week I blew out a wagon wheel that required me to barter 3 goats to get it fixed.

Can you imagine the logistics of having millions of internal combustion engine buggies on the road????

Try selling a $1000/year tax increase to the general public so ICE vehicles can create pot holes on my buggy lane!!!! Or a $50,000 tax to pay for infrastructure so these crazy guys can drive their ICE's 15,000 miles a year!!!

It boggles the horse and buggy mind!!°

This is a way to get two bangs for one buck. Fix the roads and add tech. Not saying it’s a great idea… I have concerns with the efficiency of it, and how much juice you get from the squeeze. Sooner or later you have to stop to allow for healthy blood flow and to take a leak. I see very little benefit personally.
 
...this is a massive money pothole! Inductive charging a phone is very inefficient you can feel that when you pick up the phone and it is hot. Doing so on a roadway is the dumbest idea ever. I might go for solar panels in the roof or small genset in the trunk but inductive charging in the roadway is fantasy island.

I was going to say the same. There is a percentage of loss…. That said, I agree 100% on roof solar. 200W indefinitely for cars sitting exposed on a hot day isn’t bad. When parked, it adds back, when moving, the car should take about 200Wh/mile anyway.

I’m also for a small genset. The play and balance in design can be exactly that.. fancier bigger cars get bigger ge sets with more power and boost capability, cheaper ones get smaller or none.
 
The loss from trying to inductively charge with a big air gap is a deal killer in this application. The loss of efficiency coupled with the high amount of power that has to be transferred and the huge number of vehicles if ever put into practical use, means it will be a real deal killer.

The repair of roads problem can be addressed by building the road with a good base of gravel and other materials, and using a high grade of cement such as that which is used in bridge construction. It cost more for the high grade cement, but actually over time the increase in the life that the road will last will more than pay for the additional cost increase of the better base to build the road on and the better cement. Bridge cement has more sacks of cement per yard, and additional chemicals that are added to the cement when it is initially mixed to make the cement stronger and more durable. And high quality roads that are designed to last a very long time have a good stable thick base, a high number of steel rebar rods, and the higher quality cement.

I worked for a cement company one summer and ran the equipment that loaded the cement trucks. And while there is a difference between average road cement and bridge cement, generally in the number of sacks of actual cement per yard of cement mix. And different states also have different standards both for the average road cement and bridge cement. I found that out because the cement company I worked for was very near the boarder of two states and sold cement to both states. When you compare the additional cost that the higher quality cement cost to the cost of ripping out a road and replacing it every 8 to 20 years or so, and you realize that if a good base and the higher quality cement had been used in the first place, the road would most likely last several times as long, you start to realize that the save a buck now building attitude often results in the spend twenty to a hundred for every buck saved now, a decade or two down the line. The only real advantage to using cheap cement that I see is it keeps a lot of people employed rebuilding roads that could of lasted many many times longer. And not using higher quality cement means putting up with more sub-standard roads in general, more ware and tear on the vehicles, and the inconvenience when the road is replaced. And something that the general public is not aware of but people with bad backs are aware of, is that the jolts to the back from a bumpy bad road cause additional aggravating of back pain.
 
If you're going to do something like this do it at traffic lights. Then the cars can sit there long enough to get a charge good for another few miles. And they could lower the "receiver" to close the air gap, so long as there's a "scram spring" that yanks it up when the driver takes their foot off the brake.
 
I just don’t see how this can work. Expensive as all get out plus the ravages of winter and salt will surely ruin this fine technology.
 
If you're going to do something like this do it at traffic lights. Then the cars can sit there long enough to get a charge good for another few miles. And they could lower the "receiver" to close the air gap, so long as there's a "scram spring" that yanks it up when the driver takes their foot off the brake.
But with that how far back would you put the charging units? Would only the first cars at the light be the ones that get the charge? Plus some cars at a light stay there far longer than others especially when they change on demand.
 
But with that how far back would you put the charging units? Would only the first cars at the light be the ones that get the charge? Plus some cars at a light stay there far longer than others especially when they change on demand.
Plus you'll have people not wanting to leave the intersection, even after the light turns green. :)
 
I wonder if there will be warnings posted on the roadway to people who have primitive pace makers? You know, the same warnings that restaurants used to put on the entry doors of a restaurant that used a microwave oven in the kitchen…😂
Kidding, folks. Kidding.
 
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a doom and gloom type and I understand everything has to start somewhere but road depts around the country can't keep up with potential pot holes and road repair shut down lanes for horses and buggies.

Just last week I blew out a wagon wheel that required me to barter 3 goats to get it fixed.

Can you imagine the logistics of having millions of internal combustion engine buggies on the road????

Try selling a $1000/year tax increase to the general public so ICE vehicles can create pot holes on my buggy lane!!!! Or a $50,000 tax to pay for infrastructure so these crazy guys can drive their ICE's 15,000 miles a year!!!

It boggles the horse and buggy mind!!°
Yea except the government did not invest in gas stations or paved roads until they needed it for defense. No one asked the farmer with a horse to pay for paving the road for a car and gas taxes pay for ICE roads, who pays for EV charger roads.
 
I have an idea. Don't ever do anything.
Necessity is the reason for invention, but some things are just way out there for practical use. Yes there's always room for improvement for many things in our daily lives, but some tend to think way outside the box to benefit just a handful. Technology can only go so far and of course somebody has to pay for that one way or another. I have an idea... if charging in motion is the goal why not install a wind turbine to the roof of EVs to take advantage of movement at very little real cost?
 
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