Originally Posted by grampi
Originally Posted by gofast182
Originally Posted by grampi
I have been doing a lot of research on cermamics since they were introduced and most people who have used them are saying they last anywhere from 3 to 6 months. The whole premise of ceramics was that they last longer. I'm not seeing where they are. Other than being easier and taking less time to apply, I see no benefit using them instead of traditional waxes/sealants. I get 6 months worth of protection using Collinite 845...I think ceramaics are more hype than anything...
I would expect this reply from you. Things from Meguiar's, Mothers, etc, particularly ceramic sprays or other other products that say 'Si02 infused' will only last that long. "Real" *coatings* from CarPro, Gyeon, etc. will certainly last 1, 2, or more years if they're taken care of with good wash practices. Coatings will offer superior behavior with sun/heat and self-cleaning properties.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but people aren't posting results from the real ceramics. I agree, the ones you mentioned are superior to regular waxes/sealants, but they require a professional to apply them, and are far more expensive than the off-the-shelf products. If we're comparing apples to apples (off the shelf ceramics compared to off the shelf waxes/sealants), I see little to no benefit in using ceramics...
Off-the-shelf to off-the-shelf I tend to agree with you. But I just posted results with a real ceramic in my M340i CQuartz/Gliss thread, I installed it myself and I'm not a professional.
Originally Posted by gofast182
Originally Posted by grampi
I have been doing a lot of research on cermamics since they were introduced and most people who have used them are saying they last anywhere from 3 to 6 months. The whole premise of ceramics was that they last longer. I'm not seeing where they are. Other than being easier and taking less time to apply, I see no benefit using them instead of traditional waxes/sealants. I get 6 months worth of protection using Collinite 845...I think ceramaics are more hype than anything...
I would expect this reply from you. Things from Meguiar's, Mothers, etc, particularly ceramic sprays or other other products that say 'Si02 infused' will only last that long. "Real" *coatings* from CarPro, Gyeon, etc. will certainly last 1, 2, or more years if they're taken care of with good wash practices. Coatings will offer superior behavior with sun/heat and self-cleaning properties.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but people aren't posting results from the real ceramics. I agree, the ones you mentioned are superior to regular waxes/sealants, but they require a professional to apply them, and are far more expensive than the off-the-shelf products. If we're comparing apples to apples (off the shelf ceramics compared to off the shelf waxes/sealants), I see little to no benefit in using ceramics...
Off-the-shelf to off-the-shelf I tend to agree with you. But I just posted results with a real ceramic in my M340i CQuartz/Gliss thread, I installed it myself and I'm not a professional.
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