Carmaker Nissan on borrowed time?

I really don’t understand the hate for Nissan. I think it’s people who haven’t owned one.

I’ve said it here many times that my family has 5, with 4 of them being Rogues. No issues

I had a Rouge that went 150k miles. No issues.

My parents have a Lincoln that needed Cam phasers within the first 20k miles and I know of people with Ecoboost F150’s in the same boat.

Don’t get me started on Chrysler, and I own both a Town and Country and a Wrangler.

Toyotas and Nissans are the only cars I have or had that have had 0 untimely or major issues in my ownership.

I don’t get the hate for Nissan.
Every OEM has had issues. Some more than others, and everyone who has ever owned any car has also had bad experiences......again some more than others. I think Nissan was once a really solid company. That can be said about other OEMs too at some point in their lives with some models. From my POV and my personal opinion, all of the OEMs have had to go to great lengths to cut costs. Again some more than others. Even modern day Toyota has had some quality issues. The perception difference is, how is the customer treated or handled per se when the issue(s) arose.

Nissan was one of the first in the industry to committ to all CVTs and paid the price in poor reliability and poor service, as well as poor perception from the public who was not use to them and their driving charecteristics. People who had good experiences with Nissans made before this era and with Datsuns before that, became very disappointed in what Nissan had turned into. Their image of the brand changed from what they previously remembered and respected.

I would also say that a great percentage of the population do not see a car any longer as an asset to be taken care of but rather more of a consumable appliance that should be used up and then discarded when it no longer is economically feasible to do so, or has outlived it's accepted purpose (please notice that I said "accepted purpose" verse "intended purpose".

In closing, I think Nissan being hated is only the description of a wider experience of users who's Nissan ownership period was unlike what they experienced with the brand before the modern era one.
 
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My first and only ownership of a Nissan was a 2003 350Z bought new. Engine was amazing. Rest of the car was a cheap tin can. Didn't even have it a year and got rid of it.
 
I have a 2014 Frontier and had a 2011 Altima, both have proven to be solid, dependable vehicles...CVT and all.
The Frontier is my wife's daily, it replaced the Altima that was handed down. It's been an absolute workhorse, my only complaints being the soft brake pedal and dirigible-grade turning radius. Even the Altima with its notorious transmission was still going strong with over 150K miles and no failures other than a head gasket, but that was courtesy of my own dumbassery. The CVT was still working when my daughter-in-law finally handed it over to CarMax, even in extreme Texas heat.
I think the main difference was due to my strict maintenance protocol and avoiding cheap parts and consumables, although that hasn't been too effective with my much newer Silverado. So far not so good with that thing, but at least it's not a 6.2.
Did you service the CVT regularly?

If so:

- How often (mileage and/or timewise)?

- Just drains-and- fills, or did you drop the pan and change the filter as well?

- What CVT fluid did you use?

Thanks.
 
Did you service the CVT regularly?

If so:

- How often (mileage and/or timewise)?

- Just drains-and- fills, or did you drop the pan and change the filter as well?

- What CVT fluid did you use?

Thanks.
I did a spill and fill every 20K miles, but I'll admit I never replaced the filter. The info I had at the time was that the CVT only had a screen that didn't require regular service. It wasn't until very recently I found that there's supposedly a small cartridge filter on the side but obviously I never replaced it.
Regardless, it was still working normally when it was traded in about a year ago. Everything else on the car started falling apart but the CVT still held on. I guess I was one of the lucky ones.
 
I did a spill and fill every 20K miles, but I'll admit I never replaced the filter. The info I had at the time was that the CVT only had a screen that didn't require regular service. It wasn't until very recently I found that there's supposedly a small cartridge filter on the side but obviously I never replaced it.
Regardless, it was still working normally when it was traded in about a year ago. Everything else on the car started falling apart but the CVT still held on. I guess I was one of the lucky ones.
Filters in transmissions don't plug up unless there are.more serious problems. A money flush- IMHO.
 
I think their problems started long before foreign MBA CEOs. Mitsubishi is also in the same ship where other related businesses in failing Mitsubishi group dump their incompetent managements to retire in.

Nissan should have taken the offer to be a subsidiary of Honda but they refuse to be a side kick and dump their own managements. The managements in Nissan have chosen themselves instead of the company.

Nissan didn't end up where they are now by accident. Ghosn is an easy target, but the subsequent management continued the clown show after the palace coup was staged. His immediate successor lasted what? A year or less? And there were questions about his own personal issues.

Those who said the company is too big to fail are correct. They're still a sizeable presence, and move a lot of vehicles.

But, if the financial forecast is correct, and it only has a couple years before insolvency, why would anyone looking at partnering with them commit to any sort of compromising deal, when they can just wait, and scavenge the parts they want if the company fails?

Despite what Nissan's current management may wish to believe, it is not bargaining from a position of strength. Taking a sick patient into the fold means you've just taken on the burden of caring for them, and distract from your own business. Ask BMW how that went.
 
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