Carmaker Nissan on borrowed time?
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Automobile market at least for ICE, has a 30% over capacity problem. Eventually the market is going to find the weaker players that need to exit and I think that is what is being shown with NISSAN. The "too big to fail" mentality keeps them on life support well beyond their useful needs in the marketplace.
Yeah, I don't get that aspect when they also make some of the most rock solid vehicle drivetrains ever.
Our 2014 Armada has been rock solid at 155K, no drivetrain issues at all. The 5.6 motors and the 5 speed autos are very dependable.
The Titan trucks were very dependable and capable trucks at a great price for what you got, not sure why they never sold more of them.
I have a hard time believing they will go completely out of business, at least I hope not. I have been eyeing a Titan/Titan XD in the near future but am also keeping track of this situation. The Frontier seems to be a solid choice.
Nissan cancelled the Titan after the 2024 model year BTW.
Yes Bummer for sure, but they just didn't move many of them. You can snag one up for a good price and *hopefully* still have parts availability for 10-15 years.
One of the things that pushed me toward my Titan was the 5 year/100k mile warranty. I wonder what happens to customers with warranty remaining when a carmaker exits the market? What happened to people driving Suzukis and Isuzus?
I remember hearing stories about GM denying warranty claims after the 2009 bailout because they considered themselves a new company, but I don't know how credible any of them were.
I remember hearing stories about GM denying warranty claims after the 2009 bailout because they considered themselves a new company, but I don't know how credible any of them were.
They do have that “Big Altima Energy”!
I think with Suzuki and Isuzu, they turned over remaining warranty coverage to GM since they had a relationship with GM in other areas. I know Daihatsu that was briefly here in the USA for a handful of years in the 1980's, handed over warranty to Toyota when the exited the market. In all these cases though, pretty much whatever part spares were already in country was all they had to work with and when the ran out, people were SOL.
wow insane... say goodbye to Honda. Seriously, what is Honda going to do that Nissan changes how they got here? Nothing.. just bankrupt Honda. It's telling when Mitsubishi is dumping the shares they have in Nissan! They've had their merger/alliance with Nissan for awhile, even Mitsu is getting out quickly!
Oh Mitsu isn't buying back shares? Yes they are.. here's a link
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62841185/mitsubishi-buys-shares-from-nissan/
I think Nissan should sell their stake in Mitsu to Hyundai - after all Hyundai Motor Company would have never existed if it wasn’t for Hyundai Heavy Industries and Mitsubishi working together.
And then Nissan should be back under Hitachi control. At one point in time, Nissan and Subaru were under Hitachi’s control.
Talks of merging with Honda should be interesting.
Another link. Points out plenty of obstacles.
I wonder if “merger” is the right description, maybe partnership? don’t the Japanese have a history and culture of supporting one another?
Early days, just initial talks. Give it some time to see how it shakes out before writing off Honda. Agree though, as it stands now current Nissan would be a ball and chain.
The CVT is the down fall of Nissan. They and all the other manufactures need to learn how to reintroduce "Choice" and options for transmissions like in the old days. Manual transmissions? I think it was last year a family member got a new Subaru with one.
No-the CVT alone is not their downfall. If you spent anytime in a Nissan Dealership-you would know their downfall. The quality of their dealerships and sales leave ALOT TO BE DESIRED. If manufacturers offered a manual transmission-the take rate would be less than 5%. It's not like the "old days" when manuals offered increase gas mileage.
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