Can EVs be wirelessly charged?

[JeffKeryk]

OK, but then don't whine when someone else complains about being too lazy to plug there car in twice a day. Its the same.

Does your garage charger serve Fried Chicken like my gas station? .

Wall-E indeed.

But it's not the same. You have to go somewhere to gas up, right? Go out of your way, unless you have business at the gas station.

 

[SC Maintenance]

But it's not the same. You have to go somewhere to gas up, right? Go out of your way, unless you have business at the gas station.

See my post #40.

 

[JeffKeryk]

See my post #40.

Some of the posts people make are over my head. I just don't understand them. All good SC.

 

[Volvo_Expert_Tech]

It takes seconds to plug in. Not minutes, seconds. You do it twice per day. When you depart in the AM, and when you return in the evening.

Depends on the commute, my wife had a 4 mile drive to work and worked four days a week so I would drive the EV to work at the volvo dealer and charge it at work on Fridays. For us, her driving an EV made sense but it was just a piece of crap as it was Volvo's first gen XC40 recharge. PLUS that fact it drops in value faster and more than any ICE. We will never go back.

However, Id like to point out one thing many people dont know. If its hot or cold outside, the battery drains even faster due to the need to keep the batteries at a 60-70f temperature that manufacturers dont tell you about. Advertised EV range is a over estimated scam and expecting ambient temp to be 65f at all times.

 

[demarpaint]

OK, but then don't whine when someone else complains about being too lazy to plug there car in twice a day. Its the same.

Does your garage charger serve Fried Chicken like my gas station? .

Wall-E indeed.

Bingo! Or those who don't have a garage or are afraid to park their EV in it because the garage is attached to the house. They would have to plug in in freezing cold or rain/snowy weather. Bottom line is it depends.

 

[oil pan 4]

Thanks. That article is almost a year old, has it gone public yet?

There's been at least a dozen "wireless charging" setups tested and planned since 2008 and none of them lasted more than a few years if they ever made it beyond testing. All for the same reasons.

 

[Torrid]

The funny part is not the hypocrisy, its the hypocrite.

When some of us say we skipped getting gas, that's a positive. It's my time saver. It would be different if I didn't mostly use home charging. It doesn't mean I skip getting gas if I need it. I would prefer to not stop for gas if I had the choice, but if it was required to drive the vehicle I would obviously do it. You're just being obtuse comparing this to a plug at home. Do you wear wet clothes because it's such an inconvenience to run the dryer?

 

[Torrid]

Bingo! Or those who don't have a garage or are afraid to park their EV in it because the garage is attached to the house. They would have to plug in in freezing cold or rain/snowy weather. Bottom line is it depends.

Then don't buy an EV? If someone has fear around the car they own, it's time to sell it. I bring it up constantly here, but why do so many look at this like an all or nothing solution? My wife charged off of 120v initially. If I hadn't upgraded my power supply in our garage I'd still be in some form of turbo VW.

 

[demarpaint]

Then don't buy an EV? If someone has fear around the car they own, it's time to sell it. I bring it up constantly here, but why do so many look at this like an all or nothing solution? My wife charged off of 120v initially. If I hadn't upgraded my power supply in our garage I'd still be in some form of turbo VW.

Point taken, rest assured I won't be buying one. You view gassing up as a hassle. I view owning an EV as a hassle, which is why I wrote "it depends." We're both entitled to our opinions.

 

[dogememe]

Depends on the commute, my wife had a 4 mile drive to work and worked four days a week so I would drive the EV to work at the volvo dealer and charge it at work on Fridays. For us, her driving an EV made sense but it was just a piece of crap as it was Volvo's first gen XC40 recharge. PLUS that fact it drops in value faster and more than any ICE. We will never go back.

However, Id like to point out one thing many people dont know. If its hot or cold outside, the battery drains even faster due to the need to keep the batteries at a 60-70f temperature that manufacturers dont tell you about. Advertised EV range is an over estimated scam and expecting ambient temp to be 65f at all times.

lol the manufacturers tell you about battery temperature. Battery preconditioning and plugging it in even when you’re not using it to keep it at the optimal temperature is in the owners manual. It’s no secret to anyone that the battery should not get too hot or cold.

For example, Modern GM EVs will straight up tell you on the screen if your battery is low and it’s cold outside that you should charge. I’ll see if I can find an example photo for you from when I had the Prologue…

And yes cold affects range but heat doesn’t matter too much. Yes the cooling systems get loud but who cares, when it’s hot out and you have the AC on gas cars blast the radiator fan too.

But I think I’m just wasting my time with this post. Some people are so concerned about the details that really don’t matter.

 

[Volvo_Expert_Tech]

lol the manufacturers tell you about battery temperature. Battery preconditioning and plugging it in even when you’re not using it to keep it at the optimal temperature is in the owners manual. It’s no secret to anyone that the battery should not get too hot or cold.

I left the industry in 2022 and when the Volvo BEVs came out, they did not have notifications or tell customers about battery cooling/heating. I did not even know until i went to the SC volvo factory to be trained on disassembling/repairing the 400v battery pack. We had plenty of customers coming in saying their range would drop 25-30% in the winter and summer. The AC/heat can operate when the vehicle is off/not driving. Advertised Range is still a scam, plenty of videos on how its calculated.

Four years is a lot I could have missed in regards to messages.

 

[dogememe]

I left the industry in 2022 and when the Volvo BEVs came out, they did not have notifications or tell customers about battery cooling/heating. I did not even know until i went to the SC volvo factory to be trained on disassembling/repairing the 400v battery pack. We had plenty of customers coming in saying their range would drop 25-30% in the winter and summer. The AC/heat can operate when the vehicle is off.

Four years is a lot I could have missed in regards to messages.

Well then Volvos just aren’t very good I guess. I guess I should have said “good manufacturers and/or good EVs” my bad. But GM has mentioned battery temperature since the 2011 Volt til today lol.

 

[Volvo_Expert_Tech]

Well then Volvos just aren’t very good I guess.

I agree, china ruined them and was one of the causes for me leaving the trade and pursuing electrical engineering.

 

[dogememe]

I agree, china ruined them and was one of the causes for me leaving the trade and pursuing electrical engineering.

It’s a bummer that experience has soured you from EVs. It’s like the first gen Nissan Leaf, the poster child for battery degradation… if your first EV was a Leaf that now has 20 miles of range left you’re going to hate them all.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Point taken, rest assured I won't be buying one. You view gassing up as a hassle. I view owning an EV as a hassle, which is why I wrote "it depends." We're both entitled to our opinions.

Curious... Why do you find owning an EV a hassle?

 

[Volvo_Expert_Tech]

Well then Volvos just aren’t very good I guess. I guess I should have said “good manufacturers and/or good EVs” my bad. But GM has mentioned battery temperature since the 2011 Volt til today lol.

There is more to it than just my experience. EV's lack a soul that an ICE has. I love the sound of my V6 turbo spooling, exhaust rumbling, and pops/crackles when i left off in high rpms. Jeremy Clarkson was correct when he said electric cars were boring white goods, and washing machines that lack soul, sound, and the engagement of an ICE. At least I can say I tried and based my opinion of an actual experience.

 

[demarpaint]

Curious... Why do you find owning an EV a hassle?

Higher insurance, installing the provisions for charging at home, no interest in solar panels to lower my charging costs, charging when making long road trips, not comfortable parking or charging one in my attached garage. That's the short version. I already know all your reasons for owning one. Thank God I don't get beaten over the head like CA residents do at the pump.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Higher insurance, installing the provisions for charging at home, no interest in solar panels to lower my charging costs, charging when making long road trips, not comfortable parking or charging one in my attached garage. That's the short version. I already know all your reasons for owning one. Thank God I don't get beaten over the head like CA residents do at the pump.

There are upfront costs to charging at home, especially depending on your service panel. You gotta have room for a 240v circuit.
Insurance can be more, you gotta check. By the way, solar panels can lower electricity costs, depending... And yeah, CA energy costs are sky high. Making use of that big nuclear reactor up in the sky can make a lotta sense. I did not install solar for the car, that came later.

How often do you make long trips of say, more than 300 miles from home? Do you have 240v available in your garage?
How often do you go to a gas station?

We are both saying the same thing; use case is important. So is personal choice. We can buy what we want regardless if it makes practical sense or not.

In my case, the EV is so much simpler to own. Services include warsher fluid and checking tire pressure. I did rotate the tires on our 1st Model 3 but the new on has staggered sizes. Now the cost to replace them is not for the faint of heart... Ouch!

 

[demarpaint]

There are upfront costs to charging at home, especially depending on your service panel. You gotta have room for a 240v circuit.
Insurance can be more, you gotta check. By the way, solar panels can lower electricity costs, depending... And yeah, CA energy costs are sky high. Making use of that big nuclear reactor up in the sky can make a lotta sense.

How often do you make long trips of say, more than 300 miles from home? Do you have 240v available in your garage?
How often do you go to a gas station?

We are both saying the same thing; use case is important. So is personal choice. We can buy what we want regardless if it makes practical sense or not.

I'm really not looking to debate it with you, it's pointless. Lets leave it at personal choice. You love them, and me, the more I learn about them the less I want one.

 

[ecotourist]

As a recent recipient (and I use that term loosely) of a cardiac pacemaker I wonder how safe being around an inductive charger would be for people like me. Pacemakers can apparently be adjusted externally (which includes being turned off) using induction. So not very safe I suspect. And with an aging population there will be lots of us.

The irony is that we bought a kitchen range with an induction cook-top not long before I got the pacemaker. It works really well. But I'm afraid to go near it when it's in use. I plan to discuss the cook-top at the pacemaker clinic the next time I'm there for a review (which I am regularly).