Can additives degrade oil performance?

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I ask because of this quote from a Motorcraft engineer when interviewed about their 5w20 blend oil: "Never add other aftermarket additives to MC oil. Much care is put into formulating engine oils. Many of the aftermarket additives upset the balance of our fully formulated oils and can actually degrade our oil's performance". He then goes on to more specific examples and why this can happen. I have to assume nearly every oil manufacturer would tell you the same thing to not add anything to their product.

It makes sense I suppose. Yet people here rave about products like LC which has a proven track record and years of "experience" with many kinds of vehicles. But have they been newer cars? I have a 2006 Honda and bought some LC (and FP60) because of the good reviews. Now I am wondering if products such as LC20 were most useful for older engines and the poorer quality oil, such as seen even 10 years ago.

Today's high tech engines and much improved oils may not need additives and might, as the engineer stated, actually degrade the ability of the oil to do its job. In fact, my Honda manual says engine damage might occur if you use oil additives and for that reason alone I might wait until after warranty to even try such products. What do you all think?
 
I think people say that because there are so many bad products and so few good.

Good Oil Additives
1.Auto-RX
2.Lube-Control
3.VSOT
4.SX-UP

thats all I would allow to touch my crankcase. and I own a 2003 Nissan
 
I would not worry about LC or auto RX since there but his statements could be correct on other adds. SX-up hasn't shown a bad UOA yet but even Mola says to check it to find an optimum.
 
martyi, the engineer is correct and conservative when he states this. MOST oil adds are just overbased lubricants or **** poor high flash solvent chemistries. They will degrade the host oil.

Keep in mind that most car owners aren't learning what good lubes and applied tribology can do to help in their car.

Exactly what we are humbly ATTEMPTING here at BITOG.

Motor oils,ALONE and longer term will not keep your engine in LIKE NEW condition. Using oil analysis and properly applied adds like Auto-RX, LC/FP, certainly will enhance the host oil and allow it to function as a lube not SPLITTING its chemistry tribologically speaking in two cleaning and lubricating.

Its a basic premise that I can back up with thousands of happy satisfied oil analysis customers!

Terry
 
Thanks guys - I will use the LC right off the bat and I have already used FP for a month now with good results. Terry is the one that actually recommended these products to me a while back and gave me very specific reasons for doing so. Then I start reading things like the engineer said and wonder. After reading many of Terry's posts and knowing his reputation around here, I'm sticking with what he says and he will be the ONLY one doing my used oil analysis when the time comes.
 
The engineer was referring to additives that were extant at the time, and commonly used - things like Bardahl engine flush, Slick 50, and STP.
 
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