Camissa tests the Cybertruck

[Torrid]

There doesn't need to be a point. People are free to spend their money on whatever they choose. And you're definitely oddly scared of them or you wouldn't be complaining about getting run over.



It's you that's bothered, I pointed out how ridiculous it is that car guys are reviewing trucks and you felt the need to respond to that, I wasn't addressing you at all in the first place. Next time just move on, it's obvious you don't have much to say that interests me and you already burned that bridge in the last thread.

The only "bothering" I see here is an unwavering desire to be right inside your own head. All I did before was explain my thoughts while you name call and then act surprised when I lost my cool before. I've had a number of accidents in multiple types of vehicles. I've never had an at fault. Literally every accident I've been in was being rear ended while I was stopped either at an intersection or waiting to turn. If that makes me scared in your mind, then sure, call it that. I call it cautious. The last one totaled the Chrysler Town & Country that hit my stationary F150 at 30mph as I waited for traffic to clear to pull into my own driveway.

I get why people buy massive vehicles. Probably fear for what I stated above. That shifts when everyone is driving 6k-8klb+ behemoths.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Your post isn't exactly any more useful in this thread is it?

This is how arguments start, just move on as well.

Apologies; I just don't get all the mean spirited comments here, especially in the EV section.

 

[hemioiler]

The only "bothering" I see here is an unwavering desire to be right inside your own head. All I did before was explain my thoughts while you name call and then act surprised when I lost my cool before.

I didn't call you names, I simply pointed out that your perception of trucks being unsafe and dangerous, is simply your perception; you're scared, it's not that the trucks are suddenly these evil dangerous things far worse than school busses, semis, tractors on the road, or just a teen out for a joyride in a car that has way more power than he needs to get up to speed.

I've had a number of accidents in multiple types of vehicles. I've never had an at fault. Literally every accident I've been in was being rear ended while I was stopped either at an intersection or waiting to turn. If that makes me scared in your mind, then sure, call it that. I call it cautious. The last one totaled the Chrysler Town & Country that hit my stationary F150 at 30mph as I waited for traffic to clear to pull into my own driveway.

I get why people buy massive vehicles. Probably fear for what I stated above. That shifts when everyone is driving 6k-8klb+ behemoths.

People don't buy massive trucks out of fear. We buy them because they're useful and extremely comfortable. If I haul air 90% of the time, that's my prerogative and you have no right to judge or complain without being willing to be judged back for your lifestyle and choices, you don't want to start down that route.

Just like I don't get to complain and push for regulating sports cars out of existence because nobody needs to reach 60 faster than 8 seconds.

And calling them "massive" is beyond silly, there are far bigger vehicles on the road. I'll take a 60 year old in a 1500 calmly going back and forth to work everyday, over a 20 year old in a riced out puddle jumper banging his tiny turbo of the rev limiter. In other words, it's not the size that matters, it's the dude behind the wheel and/or the state of the equipment.

 

[Torrid]

I didn't call you names, I simply pointed out that your perception of trucks being unsafe and dangerous, is simply your perception; you're scared, it's not that the trucks are suddenly these evil dangerous things far worse than school busses, semis, tractors on the road, or just a teen out for a joyride in a car that has way more power than he needs to get up to speed.




People don't buy massive trucks out of fear. We buy them because they're useful and extremely comfortable. If I haul air 90% of the time, that's my prerogative and you have no right to judge or complain without being willing to be judged back for your lifestyle and choices, you don't want to start down that route.

Just like I don't get to complain and push for regulating sports cars out of existence because nobody needs to reach 60 faster than 8 seconds.

And calling them "massive" is beyond silly, there are far bigger vehicles on the road. I'll take a 60 year old in a 1500 calmly going back and forth to work everyday, over a 20 year old in a riced out puddle jumper banging his tiny turbo of the rev limiter. In other words, it's not the size that matters, it's the dude behind the wheel and/or the state of the equipment.

While driving recklessly can be a concern, weight can't be negated. I might not have a right to judge in your mind as you've said, but everyone is a critic and everyone you see judges. Whether it is positive or negative it happens without intention some cases. We all have preconceived notions.

It's not silly to call them massive. The far bigger vehicles you mention are conducting business while heavy trucks are tearing up roads to haul air as you said. I already said to buy what you want, I just think that some people make stupid decisions because they think something looks cool. Everyone has the right to spend their money how they want, but I also have the right as a free thinking human being to see that some are being wasteful. Sorry.

 

[Burt]

There is an optional, and I believe removable, battery pack that pushes the Cybertruck to a 440-470 mile range. I want to research its removability some more. IMO, it would be nice if it were removable so when driving locally it can be stored at home saving weight and perhaps some complexity, but then be available for long trips and towing.

If they would let you rent the battery pack for long trips that would be great especially if you could recharge it while charging the vehicle. Better yet rent a battery on a pull behind trailer with or without storage space.

 

[hemioiler]

While driving recklessly can be a concern, weight can't be negated. I might not have a right to judge in your mind as you've said, but everyone is a critic and everyone you see judges. Whether it is positive or negative it happens without intention some cases. We all have preconceived notions.

It's not silly to call them massive. The far bigger vehicles you mention are conducting business while heavy trucks are tearing up roads to haul air as you said. I already said to buy what you want, I just think that some people make stupid decisions because they think something looks cool. Everyone has the right to spend their money how they want, but I also have the right as a free thinking human being to see that some are being wasteful. Sorry.

You literally said "People shouldn’t be able to privately purchase 7,000lb+ vehicles for road use". That's an absolutely terrible idea as I've repeatedly pointed out but yet you refuse to retract.

It's not about simply having the opinion that large trucks for the masses are useless, you're way beyond that point and want to stop it and remove that choice.

People need these trucks to tow private trailers/RVs/boats or do whatever else they want with them that you can't do with your tiny vw's. You don't get to legislate that choice away. And if your opinion has mellowed away from legislation into simply saying "its a stupid idea", remember that people need to daily drive them empty most of the time instead of wasting money on a second car, and that's their prerogative.

I was always a car guy until I needed a truck for towing. My truck sees a fair amount of towing, but also in terms of daily driving you can't pry my truck out of my hands, it's the most comfortable vehicle I've ever owned and I spend hours/days in it some months of the year "hauling air". You couldn't pay me to pretzel my way into a golf, that's never going to happen.

The second issue with your thinking is trying to put an upper limit on the size of the car for somebody's needs. When it comes down to it, the vast majority of people just need a tiny 2 seater to get back and forth to work, and maybe a small 4 door if they carry 1 or 2 kids. You want to legislate SUV's out of existence too? Because hey, tiny cars aren't as "massive" and as risky to hit vs a durango that's only carrying 4 people "most of the time" while "hauling air" the rest of the time?

Your entire premise is a knee jerk reaction and this line of thinking needs to stop. Left alone, that thinking is how we had a 2 tier society in the last crisis driven by fear here in my country and its why I'm pushing back against this.

Live and let live.

 

[Cujet]

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As an older guy, I've owned good and bad vehicles. The ones that please me, continue to do so, long, long after the newness has worn off. This meme, while kind of funny, really misses the point. The Cybertruck seems to be a useful and capable vehicle, and if it works well for somebody, they will probably love it.

Furthermore, the idea that panel and door gaps are somehow exceedingly important, or that most people truly care or notice, is largely in error. How it drives, whether it is comfortable, and whether it is convenient to use will matter. I suspect Tesla has it well dialed in here.

 

[PandaBear]

And weren't you the guy who is scared of trucks on the road? Hate to brake it to you but this thing weighs more than an f150 and it's even less useful.

I am scared of bad drivers usually, vehicles are vehicles and someone slamming into me at 50mph in a car is worse than someone slamming into me at 25mph in a truck. 1/2 M V square, remember your HS physics.

The problem with CyberTruck is the stainless steel. It is tough which means not going to crumble as well as another car. Heck they can't even stamp the stainless steel they are made with because it is too stiff.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I am scared of bad drivers usually, vehicles are vehicles and someone slamming into me at 50mph in a car is worse than someone slamming into me at 25mph in a truck. 1/2 M V square, remember your HS physics.

The problem with CyberTruck is the stainless steel. It is tough which means not going to crumble as well as another car. Heck they can't even stamp the stainless steel they are made with because it is too stiff.

Yep. They over bend it due to its shape memory. There are actually not that many panels, which may help in assembly. Not sure.