Camissa tests the Cybertruck

AZjeff said:
Apparently 1 Lexus model of EV has it. So would they need some sort of approval to use something so unconventional and unproven in autos?
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Infiniti has had steer by wire for like a decade. It sucked, though. Ah I see this was already discussed.
 
Shel_B said:
Did you watch the video? In it, the use of the metal was explained and demonstrated. It's not your standard stainless steel. It is incredibly hard and durable, supports the structure of the vehicle and aids in saving weight and improves safety.
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Yes I did, but, what application in real world needs it? They clearly have a hard time making it fit and look right and now wanting sub 10 micro precision, in a TRUCK.
 
proveitwithdata said:
Redundancy is paramount in these systems,
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It is the same with FBW flight controls, as I mentioned above. However the big benefit in safety comes from eliminating the previous set of problems without introducing new problems.

I suspect people much more clever than me will design in some epic SBW safety protocols. It will be cool to learn what they are.
 
Torrid said:
Definitely. I don’t pay as much attention to TFL as I used to when I had a truck, but I won’t miss this one when they do it.
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I think all of the EV trucks they've tested so far have passed easily? I skipped around through the Rivian test video and it seemed they all just set the cruise at 60 mph and go up the hill with no drama but the drop in estimated range, and then they all go down gaining back some range. TFL seem to rely on the vehicles systems reporting of energy used, and gained, and component temperatures, which isn't really a valid way to compare anything between vehicles. It's entertainment.
The SAE J2807 towing tests would be interesting to compare? I guess really if anyone was serious about towing with an EV, its the aero drag of the trailer that matters, the actual vehicles seem to have no shortage of power or braking, or stability. Testing of trailers would be the most useful.
 
Cujet said:
It is the same with FBW flight controls, as I mentioned above. However the big benefit in safety comes from eliminating the previous set of problems without introducing new problems.

I suspect people much more clever than me will design in some epic SBW safety protocols. It will be cool to learn what they are.
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They will have to do this with the understanding that most drivers will never rtfm on safety protocols
 
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IndyIan said:
I think all of the EV trucks they've tested so far have passed easily? I skipped around through the Rivian test video and it seemed they all just set the cruise at 60 mph and go up the hill with no drama but the drop in estimated range, and then they all go down gaining back some range. TFL seem to rely on the vehicles systems reporting of energy used, and gained, and component temperatures, which isn't really a valid way to compare anything between vehicles. It's entertainment.
The SAE J2807 towing tests would be interesting to compare? I guess really if anyone was serious about towing with an EV, its the aero drag of the trailer that matters, the actual vehicles seem to have no shortage of power or braking, or stability. Testing of trailers would be the most useful.
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It'll do fine. Pulling power won't be an issue. It's just nice to see what the actual power consumption is.
 
AZjeff said:
All I wondered was if there was approval needed to put true stand alone SbW on US highways. If it was already approved previously as it exists in the Cybertruck answers the question. What's used on aircraft or racetracks or European roads doesn't validate it for road use here. And the Infiniti system had/has all of the mechanical steering in place as a fail safe as previously noted. Not sure the point, did NTSB or whoever at some point approve true stand alone SbW for use. True or False.

If another maker has a SBW system like this Tesla system in use now I wasn't aware of it.
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I don't believe the Lexus system I mentioned has a back up. I wonder if approval was needed too but, I dont know, was approval needed for electronic throttle control?
 
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buster said:
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I'm not sure it matters why people overspend for vehicles, but there's sure a lot that do on a daily basis. That said it's going to be annoying to drive one of these things. It's still annoying just having a Model 3 with the attention it brings here. There's plenty of places they blend in but apparently not in small town midwest.
 
Torrid said:
I'm not sure it matters why people overspend for vehicles, but there's sure a lot that do on a daily basis. That said it's going to be annoying to drive one of these things. It's still annoying just having a Model 3 with the attention it brings here. There's plenty of places they blend in but apparently not in small town midwest.
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There are easily 5 or 6 Teslas on my street. The Model Y is the most popular. They had to copy our Model 3; we were first!

I like the cars across the street. He drives a gorgeous MBZ BiTurbo sports car and she drives a Model Y Performance. Dunno which one's faster... I will tell you the sound of that MBZ is flat out incredible. I think it was pretty darn expensive...
 
The bigger question is why are car guys "reviewing" trucks? This video was pitiful by any metric other than entertainment value, same thing with "savage geese", these guys just don't know much about trucks and should at least say that off the top.

Looking forward to the Truck King review.

Even TFL truck reviews are ridiculous at times (particularly their scoring system and how relevant it is (or isn't) to guys who work their trucks), they're all car guys for the most part.
 
hemioiler said:
The bigger question is why are car guys "reviewing" trucks? This video was pitiful by any metric other than entertainment value, same thing with "savage geese", these guys just don't know much about trucks and should at least say that off the top.

Looking forward to the Truck King review.

Even TFL truck reviews are ridiculous at times (particularly their scoring system and how relevant it is (or isn't) to guys who work their trucks), they're all car guys for the most part.
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He drove it as a car and it performed amazingly as a car. I can’t say that about most current trucks.
 
And weren't you the guy who is scared of trucks on the road? Hate to brake it to you but this thing weighs more than an f150 and it's even less useful.
 
hemioiler said:
And weren't you the guy who is scared of trucks on the road? Hate to brake it to you but this thing weighs more than an f150 and it's even less useful.
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Not this stupid stuff again. Yes, I think it's pointless as a truck. I bet less people will use it as a truck than current truck owners do with their atrophied 5.5 ft beds.

It's break. If you're going to insult someone at least try to spell correctly.
 
Torrid said:
Not this stupid stuff again.
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Don't reply to specific people then if you don't like how they respond to you.

Torrid said:
Yes, I think it's pointless as a truck.
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Exactly, which is the point of this abomination, it's a cyber "truck" that doesn't do truck things all that particularly well as has been pointed out here and in other threads, yet you somehow thought it "interesting"? "valuable"? that it performs better than some cars.

Torrid said:
I bet less people will use it as a truck than current truck owners do with their atrophied 5.5 ft beds.
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My 5.7' bed just needs to tow my trailer and haul some firewood. It does that perfectly well while being small enough yet to be a daily driver in tighter spots, every foot you add to your bed which you don't need increases the wheel base or shortens your cab which is doing passenger duty.

Torrid said:
It's break. If you're going to insult someone at least try to spell correctly.
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I think you insulted yourself, I just happened to point it out.
 
hemioiler said:
Don't reply to specific people then if you don't like how they respond to you.



Exactly, which is the point of this abomination, it's a cyber "truck" that doesn't do truck things all that particularly well as has been pointed out here and in other threads, yet you somehow thought it "interesting"? "valuable"? that it performs better than some cars.



My 5.7' bed just needs to tow my trailer and haul some firewood. It does that perfectly well while being small enough yet to be a daily driver in tighter spots, every foot you add to your bed which you don't need increases the wheel base or shortens your cab which is doing passenger duty.



I think you insulted yourself, I just happened to point it out.
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We definitely see two completely different things here. For that matter I drove an F150 for 5 years. I'm not "scared" of trucks. I just fail to see the point in them for the vast majority of inattentive drivers that aren't using its capabilities. Sorry my reply about a car channel that reviews cars as performance vehicles bothered you. I'll be more sensitive next time.
 
Torrid said:
We definitely see two completely different things here. For that matter I drove an F150 for 5 years. I'm not "scared" of trucks. I just fail to see the point in them for the vast majority of inattentive drivers that aren't using its capabilities.
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There doesn't need to be a point. People are free to spend their money on whatever they choose. And you're definitely oddly scared of them or you wouldn't be complaining about getting run over.

Torrid said:
Sorry my reply about a car channel that reviews cars as performance vehicles bothered you.
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It's you that's bothered, I pointed out how ridiculous it is that car guys are reviewing trucks and you felt the need to respond to that, I wasn't addressing you at all in the first place. Next time just move on, it's obvious you don't have much to say that interests me and you already burned that bridge in the last thread.
 
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