Bullet Tax

[Trajan]

http://news.yahoo.com/official-proposes-bullet-tax-curb-chicago-crime-070551870.html

Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle submitted a proposed budget on Thursday that would impose a tax of a nickel for each bullet and $25 for each firearm sold in the nation's second-largest county, which encompasses Chicago.

Glad I don't live there.

 

[Turk]

UH!!

 

[Bandito440]

Haha. He must be a Chris Rock fan.

 

[Kestas]

Does this affect those who make their own bullets? That is, would the tax include the components to make bullets?

 

[supton]

Just bullets, or does it apply to loaded cartridges too?

I suspect it'll die pretty quickly.

 

[Kestas]

Originally Posted By: link
"It's not the law-abiding citizens stacking bodies like cordwood in Chicago; it's the bad guys," he said.

Preckwinkle sought to fend off that argument during her remarks Thursday. She said nearly a third of the guns recovered by police after being used in Chicago crimes had been purchased legally, initially at least, in suburban Cook County.

Not a very good argument. Conversely, more than two-thirds of the guns found were obtained illegally.

 

[Lead Shoes]

Originally Posted By: Kestas
Does this affect those who make their own bullets? That is, would the tax include the components to make bullets?


Doesn't matter, the 5 cent tax is going to decrease the demand for bullets in that area, which will hurt them, but they likely wont notice. Now if they decide to go online or drive out of county to get bullets, that is the unknown variable.

The only people here really being penalized are law abiding citizens who shoot for sport or hunt, criminals will keep buying them no matter the price, pretty much the same problem with banning guns, criminals will find a way to get them anyway no matter the price.

 

[Quattro Pete]

So, if someone puts a few bullets in me, is that technically considered a tax refund?

 

[yonyon]

No, QP, it's more like a death tax. If you take issue with the death tax you should insist your shooter purchase bootleg ammo.

 

[Cujet]

An ammo tax is an infringement on the 2nd amdt.

The "right" to keep and bear is not subject to a tax, or other stipulations. Regardless of what many think.

Shall not be infringed means exactly that. Infringement can take innumerable forms!

Put another way, a 5c tax on a bullet is, in essence, not significant. Many common forms of ammo are currently over a dollar a round. But, once a tax is enacted, there is no stopping the rate increase into absurd levels. The amount of a tax matters not. Could the rate rise to $100 per bullet, after a set time? Sure enough!

 

[yonyon]

Originally Posted By: Cujet
An ammo tax is an infringement on the 2nd amdt.

The "right" to keep and bear is not subject to a tax, or other stipulations. Regardless of what many think.


You and your fancy Rights! Constitution this! Quartering soldiers that! This sort of talk should be banned.

 

[SrDriver]

Folks will just cross the line into Wisconsin where they can buy the ammo and pay less sales tax in the process too.

Mail order is another option.

 

[djb]

How is this a useful tax? Non-criminals will be paying the vast majority of this tax.

A mugger needs to buy one or two, and may never use them. It costs a nickel extra to kill someone. Perhaps $2 extra for a drive-by spray-down.

In contrast, people that doesn't intend to use firearms for committing a crime need to go to the range regularly.

Basically, criminals are a negligible market for ammo sales.

 

[spasm3]

Wow !! Tax bullets and firearms people use to protect themselves , yet no requirement for criminals to pay restitution to victims. (unless you sue them in civil court at your own expense.)

 

[Indydriver]

Don't worry. Indiana is just a short drive away.

 

[ChiTDI]

The city/county is out of control at night. Areas are sporadically hit by drivebys and LE is handcuffed from retaliating by the same geniuses that propose these taxes.
The politicians' lip service for control is a waste of time. The cartel is establishing distribution hierarchy within the local gangs.
So I'm told.

 

[Texan4Life]

thats huge. a dollar on a box of 20 or $2.50 on a box of 50. wanna case of 1000? that'll be an extra $50.

sucks to be a .22 shooter.

If it passed, county sales tax collected on ammo and guns who drop. businesses would probably close/relocate out of county. They would have a net tax revenue loss.

in the mean time all criminals would still have plenty of guns/ammo.

FAIL

 

[CourierDriver]

Remember it is only a submitted proposal. He has run out of things to do imho.lol

 

[OtisBlkR1]

Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Don't worry. Indiana is just a short drive away.


and if your so inclined, we ARE a open cary state !

 

[Tempest]

Originally Posted By: Cujet
An ammo tax is an infringement on the 2nd amdt.

The "right" to keep and bear is not subject to a tax, or other stipulations. Regardless of what many think.

Shall not be infringed means exactly that. Infringement can take innumerable forms!

Put another way, a 5c tax on a bullet is, in essence, not significant. Many common forms of ammo are currently over a dollar a round. But, once a tax is enacted, there is no stopping the rate increase into absurd levels. The amount of a tax matters not. Could the rate rise to $100 per bullet, after a set time? Sure enough!

There has been a Federal 10% tax on handguns and 11% tax on long guns and ammo for a long time.