I agree that ideally a full purge is the best option, but I've been doing a "turkey baster" (actually a siphon off and replace) for many years and had no problems so far - 10 year old vehicle (GM w/ ABS VI.) No air gets introduced as long as you don't touch the brake pedal while the m-c is empty.
Brake Fluid Flush?
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My concern isn't that air gets introduced, it's that the nasty fluid in the caliper pistons (where all the seal abrasion and fluid boiling actually takes place) never actually gets properly replaced.
I do all my cars every year. The BMW has the Motive bleeder used on it and the Chevy's and my wife's Miata all have their brake fluid changed via a Griots garage fluid sucker that attaches to the bleeder at the wheel and pulls the new fluid from the master cylinder down to the wheel cylinder. Both work great and take very little time to use. Go to www.griotsgarage.com and check his brake bleeder - it's cool!!
Well I mention this maybe last month. The Goodyear place around the corner refuse to do a brake flush, said it was not needed. Then I have a speech about his 37yrs in the business and it never needed to be replace. I figured he makes his money by replacing calipers and such.
I flush my brake fluid completely once a year. First time I did them after buying my truck used with 45k it was pretty dirty with lots of debris in it.
Turkey bastering the brake fluid reservoir [and the PS reservoir] are great maintainance procedures.
IMO No baster needed for Power steering.
For the power steering just disconnect your cooler line or line at rack and drain completely. No need to suck anything out. Fill and(vehicle on)cycle steering from one direction to the other. Make sure you turn wheel till it its stops. This will also help purge air from lines. Drain and fill again and repeat until fluid stays one color. I use ATF so its red.
For the power steering just disconnect your cooler line or line at rack and drain completely. No need to suck anything out. Fill and(vehicle on)cycle steering from one direction to the other. Make sure you turn wheel till it its stops. This will also help purge air from lines. Drain and fill again and repeat until fluid stays one color. I use ATF so its red.
There are plenty of difficult to disconnect power steering lines. Pulling hoses in many vehicles is not worth the hassle.
For the do-it-yourselfer, mityvac/pelaextractors are easy to use and just as effective. Siphon/refilling the PSF every now and then goes a long way without the hassle of PS hoses, clamps, banjo bolts, or fittings.
I can siphon/refill the PSF reservoir in under a minute. I could also pull the PSF line in about an hour. I would need to drive the car up on ramps, or lift it onto jacks. Pull undercarriage shields and/or the tire/inner fender cover. Fight with the disconnect method. Fear the risk of leaks when reconnecting everything..... I have 3 cars in the driveway. Each one is different and a hassle to bother with. $25 buys an oil change pump, or $5 buys a siphon pump from harborfreighttools. Using a baster will annoy your cook.
For the do-it-yourselfer, mityvac/pelaextractors are easy to use and just as effective. Siphon/refilling the PSF every now and then goes a long way without the hassle of PS hoses, clamps, banjo bolts, or fittings.
I can siphon/refill the PSF reservoir in under a minute. I could also pull the PSF line in about an hour. I would need to drive the car up on ramps, or lift it onto jacks. Pull undercarriage shields and/or the tire/inner fender cover. Fight with the disconnect method. Fear the risk of leaks when reconnecting everything..... I have 3 cars in the driveway. Each one is different and a hassle to bother with. $25 buys an oil change pump, or $5 buys a siphon pump from harborfreighttools. Using a baster will annoy your cook.
WOW...I guess its just easy if you have a PS steering cooler. Takes a second. Squeeze the clamp with a plier and its off. I forgot how difficult it could be with cars. It easy with my 02 explorer. No jacks and just a plier and the line is off.
Baste your turkey!
buy a pump...lol
Baste your turkey!
buy a pump...lol
I've done it a couple of times for my '95 Acura Integra GS-R. I did it just like that, which pretty much matched the instructions in the factory service manual. The PS reservoir return hose fit nicely into a a funnel extension, which I taped to an empty motor oil bottle to keep the fluid from spurting everywhere. It makes a hellacious noise and you'll think your baby is in pain. However - there should be enough residual fluid in there to keep the pump from destroying itself until fresh fluid is added. I used Honda Power Steering Fluid V or whatever they're selling now, which was under $2 a 12 oz bottle at the time.
A full flush every couple years is a good thing.Turkey baster is not a flush.
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Well I mention this maybe last month. The Goodyear place around the corner refuse to do a brake flush, said it was not needed. Then I have a speech about his 37yrs in the business and it never needed to be replace. I figured he makes his money by replacing calipers and such.
I hear that everywhere even some dealers...because they do like to sell calipers.
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