Bought a new Mazda CX-5

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Originally Posted By: NateDN10
And even though a $500/mo car payment is manageable for you now, in 6 years you may be married with a kid on the way, and hoping to buy a house! $500/mo will be harder to stomach at that point.


Been there, done that. That is a bit of a stretch. Afterwards I wished I hadn't bought the new car the year prior, although it did all work out in the end.

Congrads on the purchase, forgot to mention that earlier.
 
Agree on the rustproof bit. Unless you know specifically what they are applying and where, and it's ok. Would hate for them to spray rubber undercoating all over and then it trap moisture.

Carwell or krown would be a good idea for Nick's locale, so at minimum the vehicle should be crossed into Ontario and krowned.

Let the dealer give some free oil filters and ATF in place of the rustproofing.
 
Congrats on the new ride, Nick....that is, until you find a reason to ditch it! You DID say you were definetly keeping the Cruze for the long term, if you recall, LOL!

Anyway, Mazda seems to have hit a real home-run with the CX-5. They are popping up like crazy on the roads here. I like the looks, but am REALLY disappointed in the engine choice.

For a small SUV, for the life of me I don't know why they did do the Skyactive treatment to the 2.5L 4-cylinder. and create a 200HP 4-cylinder for this, to replace the 200HP V6.
 
Congrats!!
Whether he can afford or not; does not bother no one.
He got a good deal from the dealer! Thats all matter!
If someone over paid the car and use extended time to pay it off; then thats the problem.
You get what you pay for. 500 bucks for a fully loaded CX5, not bad. Each manufacturer has differnt % offered and depends on your local credit union promotion too.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Congrats on the new ride, Nick....that is, until you find a reason to ditch it! You DID say you were definetly keeping the Cruze for the long term, if you recall, LOL!

Anyway, Mazda seems to have hit a real home-run with the CX-5. They are popping up like crazy on the roads here. I like the looks, but am REALLY disappointed in the engine choice.

For a small SUV, for the life of me I don't know why they did do the Skyactive treatment to the 2.5L 4-cylinder. and create a 200HP 4-cylinder for this, to replace the 200HP V6.


They were shooting for all around performance, and excellent mpg with the skyactiv engine. You might want to wait until the diesel version arrives, that should more than satisfy your power needs lol.
 
Nice color; wish the wheels were a bit more simple/sharp, but still in interesting vehicle?

So what didn't you guys like about the Outback compared to the cx5?
 
Originally Posted By: 97tbird
Nice color; wish the wheels were a bit more simple/sharp, but still in interesting vehicle?

So what didn't you guys like about the Outback compared to the cx5?


Well I personally liked the CX-5. My mom likes the outback, as a potential, less expensive, better gas mileage alternative to the equinox. The outback has a bigger back seat, and more storage space in the back.
 
4.79% dang.
I've owned 2 new cars and never paid more than 0% interest. Any more is a ripoff.

Get that thing KROWN rust proofed. Never seen cars rust as bad as Mazda's and for that reason would never ever buy one in our climate, but if you take care of it, it should last.
 
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
4.79% dang.
I've owned 2 new cars and never paid more than 0% interest. Any more is a ripoff.

Get that thing KROWN rust proofed. Never seen cars rust as bad as Mazda's and for that reason would never ever buy one in our climate, but if you take care of it, it should last.



That's interesting, considering mazda sells very, very well in Canada.
 
They sell very well because if an owner wants a Mazda, then they have to keep replacing it!
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Just kidding. Although I too have seen a good number of Mazda's with rust. Not all, but enough to notice. [Not as bad as the 1/2 ton's missing rocker panels, though.]
 
Congrats, enjoy it.

With regards to interest rate, 4.79% may have dealer profit attached to it. A dealer used to be able to legally tack on up to 3% and split the proceeds 50/50 with the bank as profit. I found this out purchasing my first car. The dealer was fuming mad when I showed up with a full check from a credit union for 4% less the rate. Thankfully an acquaintance was interning locally at a credit union.

You may still want to inquire as you refinance auto loans.

My local rates>> http://www.necu.org/current-rates/autos.aspx
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: Nick R
I've been growing less happy with my cruze. The transmission is horrid at low speeds, stop and go traffic which I'm in for half an hour on the way home every day. It's jerky, shifts are rough. Once cruising, or at normal city driving it's fine, but stop and go is not pleasant.


I won't give you any advice on financial matters. You didn't ask for it, but I will say that you HAVE received some excellent advice from others here. Just soak it in and maybe consider it the next time you're in the market for a vehicle.

The transmission behavior is one of the reasons I grew displeased with my Camry as well. The transmission programming is SO geared toward efficiency, that it's in the highest possible gear it can be in at any given time, and the TCC is likely locked as well. It makes for a very jerky and disjointed driving experience. If you drive it at 10% throttle all the time, it worked fine. If you drive it at 90% throttle all the time, it worked fine. But if you drive with 25-50% throttle, that was some odd middle ground where the transmission produced some very odd behavior.

It was frustrating, and I grew to really dislike driving the car. So I certainly understand where you're coming from, if the Cruze is how the Camry was.

I trust that Mazda's AT programming is a lot like Honda's. It won't jump into the highest gear by default. It'll hold lower gears as you go up and down hills. It'll downshift as you brake to maximize engine braking and so that it's ready for when you do step back on the accelerator. It's sublime compared to the Toyota's AT programming.

Best of luck with your new CX-5. You'll find out what I recently have. It doesn't matter if you routinely haul kids or dogs or cargo; the packaging and relative efficiency of small SUVs like ours are very hard to beat.

Cheers!
Jason


Totally know what your talking about there. My favorite is going up the slightest incline and the tc is locked in then it shifts to a higher gear then shifts right back down lol. By far the most annoying transmission ive had. I have totally changed my driving to compensate for this tranny because i dont trust the reliability of it in the long run since it can do like 10 different things under the right conditions just to get to 50 mph lol

Wish i had my 09 accord back for its shifting characteristics it had a perfectly programmed trans. Unfortunately i think we are going to see more and more of this as they try to squeeze every mpg out of a car as they can
 
What was most bothersome to me about the Camry's programming is at moderate throttle, it would lock the TCC even during moderate acceleration. Say at 25 mph, it upshifts into 3rd and right after, it feels like another gear change because it locked the TCC. But you're still trying to accelerate. More often than a Toyota powertrain engineer would probably care to admit, it would lock the TCC as soon as it went into gear (as if that was the default mode) and immediately unlock it as soon as it realized that there was too much engine load for TCC lock.

Originally Posted By: swirlparanoid
Wish i had my 09 accord back for its shifting characteristics it had a perfectly programmed trans.


Yep, I love it. In our CR-V, the TCC won't lock until you're at 50 mph in 5th. I suppose it would lock in 4th, maybe on a long uphill or something, but I haven't encountered that yet. And if it does downshift for a hill, it will not upshift back if you have to jump out of the throttle and get back into it as many cars will. It won't upshift until you've done 5-6 seconds of sustained driving at a sustained speed at a lower throttle opening. They're the best-programmed automatics I've ever driven.

You are right, though, that more and more software will start to be this way. My in-law's CR-V, which is three model years newer than ours, will lock the TCC in 3rd gear around the neighborhood. It's not nearly as annoying as how the Camry did it, but it's still not as smooth as our CR-V.

I'll bet Mazda has the programming down pretty well in the CX-5's automatic. Nick should experience none of the herky-jerky that he did in the Cruze.
 
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
4.79% dang.
I've owned 2 new cars and never paid more than 0% interest. Any more is a ripoff.

Get that thing KROWN rust proofed. Never seen cars rust as bad as Mazda's and for that reason would never ever buy one in our climate, but if you take care of it, it should last.

I think though the high interest rate reflects the high interest overall in the car. If you look at almost any car model sales year by year, they always sell the most in the first year its available. So I guess to cash in on the early hype the manufacturer doesn't have to offer 0% to get them off the lot.
I tend to think buying the car after its been in production for a few years is a better idea,(probably get 0% financing then) but also you would think that Mazda is going to make sure this car is well built, being the first SkyActiv model.
 
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Congrats, enjoy it.

With regards to interest rate, 4.79% may have dealer profit attached to it. A dealer used to be able to legally tack on up to 3% and split the proceeds 50/50 with the bank as profit. I found this out purchasing my first car. The dealer was fuming mad when I showed up with a full check from a credit union for 4% less the rate. Thankfully an acquaintance was interning locally at a credit union.

You may still want to inquire as you refinance auto loans.

My local rates>> http://www.necu.org/current-rates/autos.aspx

yes, the F&I guy can and will tack on some points. always best to shop around, see what's offered, before falling in love with a car. $500/ for 72 mo is $36K! to say nothing of the insurance!
only once did a get a new car that was over $400/mo, and I regretted it because I was laid off within a year and it took years before I had a 'good' job again.
now, if I can't get it for $200/mo or less I don't buy it.
 
Originally Posted By: mpvue
Originally Posted By: rjundi
Congrats, enjoy it.

With regards to interest rate, 4.79% may have dealer profit attached to it. A dealer used to be able to legally tack on up to 3% and split the proceeds 50/50 with the bank as profit. I found this out purchasing my first car. The dealer was fuming mad when I showed up with a full check from a credit union for 4% less the rate. Thankfully an acquaintance was interning locally at a credit union.

You may still want to inquire as you refinance auto loans.

My local rates>> http://www.necu.org/current-rates/autos.aspx

yes, the F&I guy can and will tack on some points. always best to shop around, see what's offered, before falling in love with a car. $500/ for 72 mo is $36K! to say nothing of the insurance!
only once did a get a new car that was over $400/mo, and I regretted it because I was laid off within a year and it took years before I had a 'good' job again.
now, if I can't get it for $200/mo or less I don't buy it.


The insurance is only $4 more per month than it was on the cruze.
 
Hope you like yours as much as the S.O. like ours. It is a nice vehicle, solid, quiet and frugal. We are averaging 27.2 with our AWD Touring and the A/C has never been off. The S.O. got 2.45% for 48 months at the Mazda dealer.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: 97tbird
Nice color; wish the wheels were a bit more simple/sharp, but still in interesting vehicle?

So what didn't you guys like about the Outback compared to the cx5?


Well I personally liked the CX-5. My mom likes the outback, as a potential, less expensive, better gas mileage alternative to the equinox. The outback has a bigger back seat, and more storage space in the back.


I got that, you bought the cx-5 after all.
... but what specifically did you 'like' VERSUS the Outback? I mean what criteria were positive about the cx-5 that were negatives on the Outback ?
 
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