BMW/Mercedes Compliance

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Does anyone know if Castrol SLX Professional LL03 (Synthetic) (gold bottle...made in Austria) complies with either BMW's standard "LL04" or Mercedes' standard "229.51" for use in late model diesels? The bottle clearly states that it complies with VW's "507.00" standard and I saw on a TDI forum that it also complies with BMW and MB.

Can anyone confirm this? Castrol cannot (I contacted them) and my BMW dealer is hopeless.TIA!
 
It's got to say ACEA A3/B4/C3 and either 229.51 or LL-04, preferably both. I'd use a 229.51 in my X5 35d; but if it didn't say either C3, 229.51 or LL04 I wouldn't use it for a DPF'ed diesel.

Charlie
 
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The Castrol Professional LL03 does not seem to meet either the Mercedes-Benz 229.51 or the BMW LL04. The oil is made to specifically meet VW/Audi norm 504.00/507.00. In order to meet the VW/Audi norm it just so happens to also meet the ACEA A3/B4 and C3 standards. This is confirmed on each bottle.

One particular oil that does meet the VW/Audi norm and the MB 229.51 is Mobil-1 ESP Formula 5W-30. This oil meets ACEA C2/C3, A3/B4, API CF, engine test requirements of A5/B5, API SL/SM plus it has the engine builder approvals of VW/Audi 504/507, MB 229.31/229.51, BMW LL04 and Peugeot and Citroën norms.

I get the Mobil-1 ESP Formula 5W-30 from Chrysler/Dodge dealerships.
 
Originally Posted By: Trajan
IIRC, BMW doesn't recommend LL04 use outside Europe.


My diesel BMW calls for LL04 and it's in Alaska. Europe reference: LL04 oils can be used in BMWs that call for LL01 "in central Europe".

Charlie
 
"IIRC, BMW doesn't recommend LL04 use outside Europe. "

This is only true for gasoline engines.

DPF-equipped diesels have to use LL04 oil. Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 is supposed to be a great oil (LL04 & MB 229.51), and we use the 229.51 specific ESP Formula M 5w40 in both our MB diesels ('05 cdi & '09 Bluetec) with excellent results.

As mentioned above, ESP Formula 5w30 can be bought at Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep dealers and the ESP FOrmula M 5w40 can be had from MB.

List of 229.51 oils

Aral SuperTronic 229.51 0W-40 LOW SAPS
Aral SuperTronic Diesel 229.51 0W-30 LOW SAPS
Bizol New Generation SAE 5W-30 (added 09 July 2007)
Castrol EDGE Formula RS SAE 0W-40 (added 09 July 2007)
Castrol EDGE Turbodiesel SAE 0W-30 (added 09 July 2007)
ELF Solaris LSX 5W-30
Fuchs TITAN GT1 229.51 SAE 5W-30
megol Motorenoel New Generation SAE 5W-30
Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 (to become available in the USA on 15 May 2006)
Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 Emission System Protection (Europe, from December 2005)
Motul Mercedes-Benz Specific 229.51 5W-30 (added October 2008)
OMV BIXXOL special C3 SAE 5W-30 (added 09 July 2007)
Pentosynth HC 5W-40 (added December 2007)
Pennzoil Platinum European Ultra Diesel 5W-30
Pennzoil Platinum Low SAPS 5W-30
Q European Engine Ultra Diesel 5W-30
Quaker State Synquest Low SAPS 5W-30
Shell Helix Ultra AX 5W-30 Mercedes 229.51
Sunoco Synturo Xenon SAE 5W30 (added 09 July 2007)
Total Quartz INEO MC3 5W-30
Valvoline SynPower MST 5W-30 229.51 (added 01 June 2006)
Valvoline SynPower MST 5W-40 229.51 (added November 2007)
 
Originally Posted By: Trajan
IIRC, BMW doesn't recommend LL04 use outside Europe.



European market 335d have one less Urea tank than US vehicles. There are other differences as well that all make for different oil requirements
 
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