JHZR2
Staff member
Hi,
These are the dumb questions that I have to ask to ensure 100% that Im doing things right... I hate to not be, and I want to make sure that I dont ruin anything.
We own a number of guns: revolvers, semiauto pistols, bolt action and lever action rifles. I want to be sure that my procedure is correct for them - bear with the dumb questions here:
-Which direction through the barrel should the patch go? On a pistol, I could send it either way, but on a lever action rifle, I can only realistically put it backwards.
-What is with the little looped patch holder that comes with every cleaning kit? (I have a set of Kleen bore rods, but the hoppes kit has the same thing). Is a jeg the correct/preferred/only way of getting a patch through a barrel?
-what is the best way to send a jeg and patch through the barrel? I find that when holding the gun and pushing on the rod handle, that in order to get it through, I have to use a decent amount of force (yes, I have the right size jeg and patches). At the end, then it comes loose, and sometimes does so a little violently... I dont like that to happen, as I dont like the sharp jeg to make its way to the back of the action/hammer/etc. How do you ensure that you control it, so it doesnt 'fly' as it comes out the other end of the barrel?
-I have remington brite bore and shooter's choice #7. Are these solvents good enough for most anything that a recreational shooter will need, or are there any other must haves?
-Say you have a 4oz bottle of a solvent... what is the best way to saturate a patch and get it onto a cleaning jeg so that I dont get my hands completely coated with oily solvent, and risk getting it on plastic/rubber grips, etc? I noted that on my ppk, a little bit of solvent touched the grip and it softened the hard plastic grip in that spot a bit.
-What can I put on the nice hardwood stock of my beretta shotgun and Marlin lever action so that it stays clean, protected, and doesnt absorb too much oil or whatnot else that it will crack? Is a silicone cloth the best protectant?
-SHould a silicone cloth be used to rub down the outer surfaces of a gun even after something like eezox that is a rust preventer and dries on, is put on the surfaces?
-I will soon have eezox for outer surface rust protection and FP-10 to put in the barrel and on the moving parts. I do not plan to grease anything, but I might put FP-10 on the slides of the pistols. Is this OK?
-Is it necessary to use patches and a solvent mop to fully clean?
-If a tiny rust spot or two have shown up on a gun, what is the best way to remove it?
-Is Ballistol a good product? I understand it is parrifin wax, and might be good to rub over the entire gun, wooden stocks and all.
-How often, if ever, would I need to use something like aerosol "gun scrubber" by birchwood casey? I don't really like to use aerosolized solvents, especially when its being used to clean something in intimate proximity to stuff that doesnt liek solvents, like wood stocks, plastic/rubber grips, etc.
-I know that some dont really like clp products (I suppose FP-10 can be considered one of them) for 'clp use', but rather just for one of the three purposes... if any... however, for a recreational shooter, to whom one box of ammo is a day worth of shooting of a particular gun; can something like FP-10, administered to the entire gun with a number of patches, and left (as opposed to first using solvent patches, then a brass brush, then more patches, then lubing, etc., etc.) and just doing like that until, say 200 rounds when a full cleaning is to be done... an OK procedure? So long as I use the stuff until the patches in the barrel come out relatively clean, I ought to be OK, right? Not to be lazy or anything, but sometimes it is nice to just lube up everything, and know that its cleaned and preserved, without having to deal with those harmful solvents and whatnot every time.
-SHould I get a silicone storage sock for EVERY gun that I own, regardless of what kind of case its locked in, etc? If I leave my guns lightly oiled, will this be enough? WOuld oiled guns interact with silicone socks in a negative way?
I think thats enough for now... Sorry for asking so many questions that just seem like second nature... After I realized how bad my form was with useng patches and solvent, I figured I need to ask a bunch of these ???s to ensure that I dont mess anything up badly.
Thanks in advance for your help,
JMH
[ February 20, 2006, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: JHZR2 ]
These are the dumb questions that I have to ask to ensure 100% that Im doing things right... I hate to not be, and I want to make sure that I dont ruin anything.
We own a number of guns: revolvers, semiauto pistols, bolt action and lever action rifles. I want to be sure that my procedure is correct for them - bear with the dumb questions here:
-Which direction through the barrel should the patch go? On a pistol, I could send it either way, but on a lever action rifle, I can only realistically put it backwards.
-What is with the little looped patch holder that comes with every cleaning kit? (I have a set of Kleen bore rods, but the hoppes kit has the same thing). Is a jeg the correct/preferred/only way of getting a patch through a barrel?
-what is the best way to send a jeg and patch through the barrel? I find that when holding the gun and pushing on the rod handle, that in order to get it through, I have to use a decent amount of force (yes, I have the right size jeg and patches). At the end, then it comes loose, and sometimes does so a little violently... I dont like that to happen, as I dont like the sharp jeg to make its way to the back of the action/hammer/etc. How do you ensure that you control it, so it doesnt 'fly' as it comes out the other end of the barrel?
-I have remington brite bore and shooter's choice #7. Are these solvents good enough for most anything that a recreational shooter will need, or are there any other must haves?
-Say you have a 4oz bottle of a solvent... what is the best way to saturate a patch and get it onto a cleaning jeg so that I dont get my hands completely coated with oily solvent, and risk getting it on plastic/rubber grips, etc? I noted that on my ppk, a little bit of solvent touched the grip and it softened the hard plastic grip in that spot a bit.
-What can I put on the nice hardwood stock of my beretta shotgun and Marlin lever action so that it stays clean, protected, and doesnt absorb too much oil or whatnot else that it will crack? Is a silicone cloth the best protectant?
-SHould a silicone cloth be used to rub down the outer surfaces of a gun even after something like eezox that is a rust preventer and dries on, is put on the surfaces?
-I will soon have eezox for outer surface rust protection and FP-10 to put in the barrel and on the moving parts. I do not plan to grease anything, but I might put FP-10 on the slides of the pistols. Is this OK?
-Is it necessary to use patches and a solvent mop to fully clean?
-If a tiny rust spot or two have shown up on a gun, what is the best way to remove it?
-Is Ballistol a good product? I understand it is parrifin wax, and might be good to rub over the entire gun, wooden stocks and all.
-How often, if ever, would I need to use something like aerosol "gun scrubber" by birchwood casey? I don't really like to use aerosolized solvents, especially when its being used to clean something in intimate proximity to stuff that doesnt liek solvents, like wood stocks, plastic/rubber grips, etc.
-I know that some dont really like clp products (I suppose FP-10 can be considered one of them) for 'clp use', but rather just for one of the three purposes... if any... however, for a recreational shooter, to whom one box of ammo is a day worth of shooting of a particular gun; can something like FP-10, administered to the entire gun with a number of patches, and left (as opposed to first using solvent patches, then a brass brush, then more patches, then lubing, etc., etc.) and just doing like that until, say 200 rounds when a full cleaning is to be done... an OK procedure? So long as I use the stuff until the patches in the barrel come out relatively clean, I ought to be OK, right? Not to be lazy or anything, but sometimes it is nice to just lube up everything, and know that its cleaned and preserved, without having to deal with those harmful solvents and whatnot every time.
-SHould I get a silicone storage sock for EVERY gun that I own, regardless of what kind of case its locked in, etc? If I leave my guns lightly oiled, will this be enough? WOuld oiled guns interact with silicone socks in a negative way?
I think thats enough for now... Sorry for asking so many questions that just seem like second nature... After I realized how bad my form was with useng patches and solvent, I figured I need to ask a bunch of these ???s to ensure that I dont mess anything up badly.
Thanks in advance for your help,
JMH
[ February 20, 2006, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: JHZR2 ]