Automatics past 200K miles.

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Originally Posted By: Oldswagon
Originally Posted By: lexus114
I dont know why you feel as though you need to defend some of GM`s biggest flops,I.E the Pontiac Turbo Trans-am?
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First off, I didn't defend the car, just saying which applications used the TH200-4R. Second, I think you are getting mixed up, I am refering to the 1989 Turbo Trans Am, which essentially used the GNX drivetrain in the Trans Am. Not the early 80's 301 Turbo POS, which BTW did not use a 4 Speed OD transmission. The 1989 Trans Am ran 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, with a 161 MPH top speed packing the TH200-4R.

Here is the car I was talking about that used the TH200-4R:

http://www.carthrottle.com/retrospective-1989-pontiac-20th-anniversary-turbo-trans-am/

Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
It was a B-O-P (Buick/Olds/Pontiac) bellhousing transmission and therefore never went behind a Chevrolet engine... ever.


440Magnum, I agree with everything you said, except for the above. Most TH200-4Rs were actually multi-fit bell housings, where they had BOP and Chevrolet bolt patterns. There were supposedly some BOP only ones, but all the ones I owned were multi-fit. Further, this transmission was behind Chev engines in the all 4-spd auto Monte Carlos and some years of the Caprice from the factory.



Yeah, I had a thought after I posted that they went behind the Oldsmodiesels too, so I started digging and discovered that they also went behind chevy-pattern engines. Generally a good transmission, and I always wondered why there was even a place for the 700R4 in the lineup... although it turned out fine in the end. Just had some serious teething pains.

It was also a bad idea to even call it a 200R4, because (obviously) so many people still confuse it with the TH200. As I understand it there's virtually no part in common between the two.
 
Originally Posted By: lexus114
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are we going to move on here,or is this going to be a locked thread?


I simply couldn't let the claim that the TH200R4 was as much "junk" as the TH200 stand without comment, because its simply not true. I didn't see that feelings had gotten involved when I read the first post that I responded to, or I might not have responded at all. I meant no offense- the way I see it there's no shame for anyone not knowing the esoteric details of two transmissions built 30 years ago or more... but I just happen to be interested in older vehicles and figured it was worth talking about since it came up. Its also a point of confusion that keeps coming up over and over since the number designators of the two transmissions are so similar.

As for the topic... The TH200R4 is among the automatics that I would easily see surviving past 200k fairly often. That pretty much IS the topic.
 
1987 Toyota Camry 2.0L 265K on original AT when sold

1988 Mercury Cougar 3.8 w/236K on original AT when sold (some slipping on hard launches, but it probably needed new fluid...and it got absolutely pounded by me and my little bro)

1995 Mercury Villager w/ 215K on original AT, no problems (my dad's)

1988 Mercury Colony Park Wagon w/285K on original AT when T-boned (my dad's)

1989 Ford LTD Country Squire wagon w/288K on orig AT when junked after 160K miles of towing trailers and 9 people, sometimes all at once (my dad's)

My 1994 Park Ave w/ 4t60e is shifting better at 86K than when I bought it at 28K.

Maintenence is everything. And not beating the thing to bits.

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Originally Posted By: caprice_2nv
Over 250K miles on the original 4T60E in the 98 Grand Am my girlfriend used to have. We sold it to a coworker of mine he's still driving it.


195k miles on our '94 Grand Am with the 4T60E.

Friend has 205k on a '96 Mercury Sable automatic.
 
I only have 94k on one 136k the other but neither one them wouldn't of made it to 200k without fluid changes. The Escape gets plug drop every 10-15k the Festiva probably 20k. The Festiva probably had the original fill when I bought at 135k.. but with a new mixture of Mercon and ATF+4 shifts amazingly good. Funny my grandpa never changes transmission fluid on any of his trucks or cars and never had a trans problem. My dad though wasn't as lucky.
 
Originally Posted By: caprice_2nv
Sure is obvious that Lexus114 really really hates being corrected. HAHA.

Originally Posted By: lexus114
ok,what ever man.
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Its not that way at all. I just didnt appreciate all the deadly force involved with it,along with the constant reviving of it. correct me,say your piece and leave it at that.
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
I think my '97 Crown Vic might have the original transmission in it, with 264K.


Transmissions in Crown Vics are renowned for being long lasting. There are so many things awesome on crown vic, which is what has made them ideal for police, and taxi duty for so long. With only a few fluid changes, Vic transmissions will last near forever. I recall the only thing that is known to almost always fail on vics is the fuel pump somewhere between 100k, and 200k miles.
 
98 K2500 with the 4L80E with 200K on original fluid and filter towing landscape trailer 5 days a week and race cars on the weekends.
 
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