Another rave for the ZF4hp22 trans. I have had several BMW 528es with this. All over 250k, 1 over 350K miles . Minimum service done at whim. Only 1 problem in 1.2 million aggregate miles. A bad TC lipseal. The 727 Tourque flite is pretty rugged too.
Automatics past 200K miles.
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Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
The 4L60E isn't the greatest trans ever, but that's very surprising.
They aren't the best, but a big transmission cooler and regular fluid changes make a big difference. I've got 210K on my 4L60E and it's still going strong (knock on wood). A buddy of mine got just shy of 250K before he blew his up, although he did overheat it twice towing trailers. He was lucky enough to be a transmission tech and rebuilt it himself.
The 4L60E isn't the greatest trans ever, but that's very surprising.
They aren't the best, but a big transmission cooler and regular fluid changes make a big difference. I've got 210K on my 4L60E and it's still going strong (knock on wood). A buddy of mine got just shy of 250K before he blew his up, although he did overheat it twice towing trailers. He was lucky enough to be a transmission tech and rebuilt it himself.
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The AOD in my Townie has 338,000Km on it (210,000 miles) and still shifts well.
My dad had a 1967 Chrysler New Yorker with over 300,000k that had never had ANY work done on the automatic transmission.
I put 300K miles on a 88 Town Car with the original transmission...Fluid was changed every 30K miles at the dealer...The Town Car was only dealer serviced...My 99 Grand Marquis had just over 200K miles with the original transmission before it was totaled in a hurricane...Fluid was changed every 60K miles in that one...The Grand Marquis was also only dealer serviced.
Had a 1994 Dodge Caravan that had 280,000 miles on it when I sold it, was still going. Never changed the transmission fluid or did any service to the transmission, just drove it.
248,000 on my 1987 3/4 ton Dodge Ram with a Torqueflite 727, never any services and abused beyond belief.
Friends 94' Silverado, 300,000 when he sold it. Shifted pretty hard but still worked!
Originally Posted By: ClarkB
Conventional BITOG wisdom is that all automatic transmissions will need serious work before 200K miles. I would like to hear of vehicles with automatic transmissions with 200K+ miles.
oilBabe's 2002 Camry is near 220K and is on the original transmission.
Just a transmission flush at 100K miles. Probably should do it again.
Conventional BITOG wisdom is that all automatic transmissions will need serious work before 200K miles. I would like to hear of vehicles with automatic transmissions with 200K+ miles.
oilBabe's 2002 Camry is near 220K and is on the original transmission.
Just a transmission flush at 100K miles. Probably should do it again.
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I had a 1991 S-10 Blazer that went 270,000 on the original unit before it got totalled
Most of my cars unit the last 3 years have been manuals though.
Most of my cars unit the last 3 years have been manuals though.
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240+K 1994 Lexus LS400, transmission fluid changed once at around 140k miles.
My 93 C1500 has 216k miles on it now. The first 40k of its life, it was a work truck, owned by a construction company. Then my dad bought it and ran it up to about 95k miles. This was near pittsburgh PA. I think my dad changed the transmission fluid once when he had it. This truck was used pretty heavy, it was a winter truck for my dad and he used it to haul the coal trailer during the winter and misc things during summer. It was cared for well, but used. I bought it from him and it had around 95k miles on the clock. I have been pretty good about keeping up with transmission changes as the fluid always had a burnt type smell and was brownish. Over the years it has seen some pretty easy living. I drove it back and forth to school and to work. I live in Mid NC so it is pretty flat and alot if interstate driving. I have used it a few times to haul atvs, mulch, rock, dirt and helping people move. I changed it at these intervals. 128k,135k, 140k, 162k, 210k. I try to do it every 30k but it dont seem to be working out that way. You can see early on i changed it a lot trying to get that nasty fluid out. Truck still runs good, but i notice when im pulling a boat and accelerating hard, it slips a little going into second. Hopefully i can baby it along for a while yet.
The majority fail or need work in the 100k-200k range. The minority need work/fail before 100k or after 200k somewhere.
The bell curve
My parents 85 AMC Eagle went 280k on the original transmission and 4.2L jeep engine without any internal engine work and then they sold it. The transfer case did have a failure of some sort but it was under $200 to fix but keep working in AWD mode but was really FWD.
The bell curve
My parents 85 AMC Eagle went 280k on the original transmission and 4.2L jeep engine without any internal engine work and then they sold it. The transfer case did have a failure of some sort but it was under $200 to fix but keep working in AWD mode but was really FWD.
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Originally Posted By: Curtis Newton
350K on 88 Camry 4cyl .... drain and fill every 30K, brother-in-law still uses it as a daily driver.
That's insane right there!
and I thought ~210Kmi on my brother's 1998 Subaru Legacy AT was great. I don't think that AT has ever had the fluid touched either, but my bro bought it with ~140Kmi on it.
Joel
350K on 88 Camry 4cyl .... drain and fill every 30K, brother-in-law still uses it as a daily driver.
That's insane right there!
Joel
205,000 on a 92 Camry, Amsoil ATF every 30,000 (drain and fill). can shift a little harsh when A/C is on but still functions quite well given the mileage.
Of course, a lot of it is genetics. Had a 96 Mystique that I changed the ATF every year ( ave 10-15,000 miles) and it died (transmission that is, engine was great)at about 149,000. So a lot depends on design and quality. Obviously driving too. Camry was mostly around town though, little highway.
Of course, a lot of it is genetics. Had a 96 Mystique that I changed the ATF every year ( ave 10-15,000 miles) and it died (transmission that is, engine was great)at about 149,000. So a lot depends on design and quality. Obviously driving too. Camry was mostly around town though, little highway.
our worst was a 2004 Savana 3500 with the 4L-80E that grenaded at 145k miles. Only cost 1200 bucks to rebuild to orig specs and still going strong today.
One of the best ever is a 2000 Savana 3500 that was wrecked with mega miles (almost 400k!) and the engine and trans (another 4L-80E) were transplanted into my son's good friend's street car! Still running today!
These vans weigh 8800 pounds with nothing in them, and typically hit the street at 9500 or so 6 days a week. Tough trans.
One of the best ever is a 2000 Savana 3500 that was wrecked with mega miles (almost 400k!) and the engine and trans (another 4L-80E) were transplanted into my son's good friend's street car! Still running today!
These vans weigh 8800 pounds with nothing in them, and typically hit the street at 9500 or so 6 days a week. Tough trans.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
our worst was a 2004 Savana 3500 with the 4L-80E that grenaded at 145k miles. Only cost 1200 bucks to rebuild to orig specs and still going strong today.
One of the best ever is a 2000 Savana 3500 that was wrecked with mega miles (almost 400k!) and the engine and trans (another 4L-80E) were transplanted into my son's good friend's street car! Still running today!
These vans weigh 8800 pounds with nothing in them, and typically hit the street at 9500 or so 6 days a week. Tough trans.
What are these transmissions sitting behind? Thats really good. Maintenance?
our worst was a 2004 Savana 3500 with the 4L-80E that grenaded at 145k miles. Only cost 1200 bucks to rebuild to orig specs and still going strong today.
One of the best ever is a 2000 Savana 3500 that was wrecked with mega miles (almost 400k!) and the engine and trans (another 4L-80E) were transplanted into my son's good friend's street car! Still running today!
These vans weigh 8800 pounds with nothing in them, and typically hit the street at 9500 or so 6 days a week. Tough trans.
What are these transmissions sitting behind? Thats really good. Maintenance?
1989 Mercury Cougar LS
198K miles on 3.8L Engine.
198K miles on ORG Trans Just 2 Fluid changes.... (3rd in 2006..)
in 2006 I got another car, let this car sit, brake line rusted.. Engine was really hard to get started, but it did start. junked it. in 2009
198K miles on 3.8L Engine.
198K miles on ORG Trans Just 2 Fluid changes.... (3rd in 2006..)
in 2006 I got another car, let this car sit, brake line rusted.. Engine was really hard to get started, but it did start. junked it. in 2009
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