Arbitrator reinstates chrysler workers fired

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This story got lots of press coverage when it happened a couple of years back. However, it has not received much media attention.

Here are the links I could find that cover the story:

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Huffington Post

I find it ironic that the Michigan right to work legislation is getting extensive media scrutiny while this story basically slipped under the radar.
In my eyes, this does not enhance the reputation of organized labor. I wonder if workers on the Subaru assembly line in Indiana would get this treatment if they consumed alcohol and drugs on the job.
 
I don't see how this is any worse than the many executives that do the same, not to mention steal cheat and lie costing the companies far more than these rank and file workers.

Do I think they should be rehired? Nope/

Too bad the(corporate) mass media doesn't decide to bust a few executives doing similar things.

I wonder if you would be sharing THAT story?
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You need to remember that most union contracts state that what you do on your own time is your business. Now if the employer just let them work a straight eight without an unpaid lunch that might help the problem/s. Also, most union contracts don't allow for drug tests, alcohol tests, or lie detectors to be performed. If you have an hour lunch and drink 24ozs of beer, you most likely will be legal at the end of the hour. Not saying it is right, but it is reality in most union and non-union shops....
 
I remember this 2 yrs ago, and I was disgusted with these clowns. I'm not surprised they got their jobs back, seams typical for the UAW to support drugs, alcoholism and lowlifes. Needless to say I will NOT be buying another big 3 vehicle again.

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Chrysler workers who were fired or suspended two years ago after a MyFoxDetroit investigation found them drinking and goofing off during lunch break are back on the job.

MyFoxDetroit first aired the footage of the Chrysler workers in September 2010. Video showed them in a park during the work day, drinking alcohol from bottles covered in brown paper bags and smoking what appeared to be marijuana.


So they got fired for hearsay and the union stood behind them? Okay so far. If they newspaper doesn't want to get sued for slander, and won't print with certainty what was being consumed, why are they poking the bear?
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Do we have chemical test results? Is there a plausible scenario where the union thought, let's not defend these guys, they're a lost cause? Open ended question.
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Do I want them building my Sebiring 200? No.
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I'm not surprised they got their jobs back, seams typical for the UAW to support drugs, alcoholism and lowlifes.

They aren't supporting it anymore than a defence lawyer supports murder by defending a person charged with murder; the ultimate goal is to protect people's rights from knee jerk mob mentality responses that are envoked from a smidgin of information and a wealth of supposition.
 
Originally Posted By: LargeCarManX2
You need to remember that most union contracts state that what you do on your own time is your business. Now if the employer just let them work a straight eight without an unpaid lunch that might help the problem/s. Also, most union contracts don't allow for drug tests, alcohol tests, or lie detectors to be performed. If you have an hour lunch and drink 24ozs of beer, you most likely will be legal at the end of the hour. Not saying it is right, but it is reality in most union and non-union shops....

I don't know where you've worked at but with me, in both union and non union shops, random drug and alcohol tests were allowed and any form of accident that was the first step. I don't agree with them drinking on the lunch breaks, but on the other hand it is hard to harp on them when the salary people are going out and having themselves drinks or a toke also.
 
The company acts in their best interests, of their own free will; and the union acts in their best interest, of their own free will. The arbitrator is neutral.

Windsor is out version of Detroit, in that the Big 3 all have a marked presence here; and I have known many a line worker. Some smoke weed and drink during the (work) day; others are fine upstanding citizens and good workers. All trade their labour for money.
 
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Good - I will never buy another vehicle that has been touched by UAW trash anyway. Honda, Toyota and Subaru for me.


Dont hold back now , tell us how you really feel.

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My truck rolled out of Ford's Twin Cities plant at about the same time a Minneapolis news channel ran a story about widespread marijuana use during breaks at the plant.

After 133K miles and 10 years, the only QC issue I have ever found amiss was a seat belt buckle installed backwards.

I doubt the habits of plant workers is vastly different in other countries.
 
Oh no, I am sure that the non-Union workers never do this. Nor do executives. They never use company time or privileges for personal use that cost the company money. These dudes simply got caught.

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I doubt the habits of plant workers is vastly different in other countries.


Or in other companies. If guys building Jeeps in Toledo toke up during lunch, who's to say that guys building Hondas in East Liberty aren't also?
 
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
My truck rolled out of Ford's Twin Cities plant at about the same time a Minneapolis news channel ran a story about widespread marijuana use during breaks at the plant.



You've heard about the old internet legend where an assembly line worker puts a coke bottle in a car door, haven't you?
It would be SO tempting to put a bag of ditch weed in the upholstery or bury it underneath the seats and hope someday that a K9 unit sniffs it out on some poor unsuspecting owner. That's the mentality of a doper union assembly line worker.
 
Originally Posted By: Kruse
That's the mentality of a doper union assembly line worker.


What an unproductive thing to say. You equate spitefulness and the wish to harm random, unknown people who purchase the products of your employer with people who smoke weed? And you think that people who smoke weed (who are probably the LEAST spiteful, harmful or violent people on earth; given the omnipresent lack of motivation) would then want to DIVEST themselves of weed just to bring to fruition this spiteful impulse they apparently all have?

It sounds, Kruse, as though you have exposed a facet of your own spiteful character by your comment. "Projecting", anyone?

Originally Posted By: Kruse
You've heard about the old internet legend where an assembly line worker puts a coke bottle in a car door, haven't you?


So you make up a new, fabricated, speculative story indicting a whole range of people based on "an internet legend"?
 
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