Anyone used G-oil two stroke yet?

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I picked up my "free" 5 gallon of G-oil and Wal-mart and decided to try their two stroke oil too. Anyone tried this yet? I have a two stroke snow blower and a trimmer that I would like to run this in. I'm hoping it smokes less, but I also have trouble with carbon build up in the exhaust of my JD trimmer(echo). About once a year I have to clean out the exhaust because it's plugged up and loses power.

What are everyone's thoughts?
 
The best way to combat exhaust port blockage in an Echo is to stick with an oil that carries the JASO FD rating.
Have not heard of anyone trying the Goil 2X yet.
I'm a stihl ultra user, but am using opti 2X currently as a test.
 
I dont normally count on mfr branded oils - but in the case of your echo I would use echo brand or one of the top 2 cycle choices. I've had my trimmer and blower for 10+ years and have never cleaned the exhaust ports. A friend of mine uses Echo products adn oil for his landscaping crews. There is no reason not to. IMHO
 
Other reasons exhausts get clogged are.
low rpm use
line too long, causing low rpm use, and over heating.
clogged air filter.
carb adjusted too rich.
fuel too rich with oil. Big 50:1 fan here.
and the dreaded short tripping.
 
I have run through a bottle in my Husky string trimmer " I trimed about 5 acres this year" and in my leaf blower at a 40:1 ratio. No problems and the spark arrestor screen didn't show carbon build up and there was minimal if any smoke, I will use the G oil again though my oil choice depends where I am when oil is on the list. I'll have to add the Husky trimmer is the most reliable thing with a motor I have ever owned other than my Kawasaki machIII motorcycle.
 
Originally Posted By: T-Keith
About once a year I have to clean out the exhaust because it's plugged up and loses power.

What are everyone's thoughts?


Using Stihl Ultra oil has virtually eliminated this problem for all of my customers. It's so clean burning that it actually cleans the carbon out of 2-cycles, it's really amazing stuff. And I'm not just saying that cuz I sell it, I use it myself as well.
 
Originally Posted By: hate2work
Originally Posted By: T-Keith
About once a year I have to clean out the exhaust because it's plugged up and loses power.

What are everyone's thoughts?


Using Stihl Ultra oil has virtually eliminated this problem for all of my customers. It's so clean burning that it actually cleans the carbon out of 2-cycles, it's really amazing stuff. And I'm not just saying that cuz I sell it, I use it myself as well.
Most people have the same high regard for all Stihl products. I guess that is how they do busisness?
 
Originally Posted By: 660mag
Other reasons exhausts get clogged are.
low rpm use
line too long, causing low rpm use, and over heating.
clogged air filter.
carb adjusted too rich.
fuel too rich with oil. Big 50:1 fan here.
and the dreaded short tripping.


YUP, and no matter how many times ya try and explain it peeps just don't "get it"..

I was "finally" able to get one of our commercial guy's to put the guards BACK on his equip after a number of associated failures.. Brought him back to my work area, locked a trimmer down in my stand and fired it up.. Running the unit @ WOT with the string at the length it was when he came in I hit it with my DIGI Tach. Once the eng speed was established I started cutting the line about a 1/2" at a time taking more Tach and TEMP readings with my Laser Temp gun.
It was like a LIGHT came on in his head and he seems to have finally grasped what I had tried to tell him before..

Originally Posted By: hate2work
Originally Posted By: T-Keith
About once a year I have to clean out the exhaust because it's plugged up and loses power.

What are everyone's thoughts?


Using Stihl Ultra oil has virtually eliminated this problem for all of my customers. It's so clean burning that it actually cleans the carbon out of 2-cycles, it's really amazing stuff. And I'm not just saying that cuz I sell it, I use it myself as well.


YUP, I use it as well... Great stuff.
 
Imagine people working on equipment for a living knowing that kind of stuff!!!
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Originally Posted By: Steve S
Imagine people working on equipment for a living knowing that kind of stuff!!!
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Your right of course I suppose we should know it huh..
Even so there are still those that will dispute what we say even though it's meant to help save peeps $$ or busted equip..

Sometimes trying to help and or share knowledge is wrought with peril.
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Ive had the same weedeater for 16 years and have never had to clean the exhaust port. I ve had to replace the fuel line and filter, they rotted away. I think the biggest reason that exhaust ports clog on these types of equipment, is people "Baby" them. Two strokes are made to run full tilt, they run better and last longer. I run my weedeater full blast, try to kill them and they love you forever. Now four strokes, they are another animal, they like to be babied, why they are more popular, I ll never know.
 
"why they are more popular, I ll never know."

Because you get a free manicure and make-up kit with each one......
 
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Now four strokes, they are another animal, they like to be babied, why they are more popular, I ll never know.



Simply not true..
Unless of course your talking about the POS 4-Stroke trimmers so many peeps buy at Home Depot, Lowes and other box stores..
Personally I don't even consider them worthy of mention they are so bad... ANY of these units aint worth the time it takes to get them out of the store

However if your speaking of the STIHL 4-Mix motors I stand by my initial statement in that your blanket comments are quite simply untrue.

The 4-Mix motors do anything/everything a 2-Stroke does BUT does it ALL better.
They Start better, Run better, Use LESS Fuel,their Quieter, have a much more Torque and absolutely run WOT all day long and are happy to do so..

Of course my thoughts and comments can be taken for whatever value someone decides to put on them and that's perfectly fine by me.. I might suggest however before one makes negative comments about these motors they should actually "TRY" one..
I've yet to see a new 4-Mix owner that wasn't very impressed..

Seems kinda strange to me that anyone could talk smack about something they no nothing about?
But then again I'm a logical, rational thinker and generally try to comment on things I know rather then things I don't..


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I think the biggest reason that exhaust ports clog on these types of equipment, is people "Baby" them.


ALSO untrue..
The BIGGEST reasons are Poor oil quality, Improper Mix ratio, and running the trimmer line too long.. Another reason is trying to run a 2-stroke trimmer at 50% (or less) throttle.. This is NOT usually done to baby the unit but is done for more close or finer trim work like flower beds and such..
This is ANOTHER reason the 4-Mix is better, it's not only haooy to run WOT, but also happy to run at less then WOT..
 
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Stihl 4 mix at about $369 v.s a typical two stroke for about $89(I think I paid $59, about 16 years ago) anyway Imagine how good a two stroke weedeater you could build for that much. The best two stroke, Ill go with Echo, is still almost $200 cheaper-get real. I dont think I will be ever trying one for that much change. Seriously more than $350 for a weedeater. I will just have to rely on my wits and deal with the two stroke. I was talking about the POS 4 strokes you buy v.s the POS two strokes you buy, two strokes win. Alot of quick affordable horsepower in a small package. Did I say simple too. You are talking about top of the line(and price). Play apples to apples and you lose everytime with a four stroke.
 
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Originally Posted By: FNFAL308
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Imagine people working on equipment for a living knowing that kind of stuff!!!
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Your right of course I suppose we should know it huh..
Even so there are still those that will dispute what we say even though it's meant to help save peeps $$ or busted equip..

Sometimes trying to help and or share knowledge is wrought with peril.
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Much appreciated help and advice and it is some what easy to tell when someone knows the facts after a handfull of posts.
 
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Stihl 4 mix at about $369 v.s a typical two stroke for about $89(I think I paid $59, about 16 years ago) anyway Imagine how good a two stroke weedeater you could build for that much. The best two stroke, Ill go with Echo, is still almost $200 cheaper-get real. I dont think I will be ever trying one for that much change. Seriously more than $350 for a weedeater. I will just have to rely on my wits and deal with the two stroke. I was talking about the POS 4 strokes you buy v.s the POS two strokes you buy, two strokes win. Alot of quick affordable horsepower in a small package. Did I say simple too. You are talking about top of the line(and price). Play apples to apples and you lose everytime with a four stroke.


I understand your philosophy if you will and your NOT alone..
MANY peeps have similar thoughts and buy those $89.00 string trimmers. Only spending $89.00 is prolly a BIG consideration and may be the main reason they sell so well & the Box stores know that.. People LOVE CHEAP and many homeowners simply refuse to drop the $$ needed for quality equipment.. I spend a LOT of time taking care of a decent sized yard as well as my Folks place down the street.. If I can use a quality pc and it helps me to do a better job faster it gives me time to do other things and that reason alone makes the extra cost a good value in my mind.

Peeps LINE UP with them darn things wanting them repaired but it's often simply not cost effective to do so at $70.00 per hour.. If it's anything other then a Fuel line or spark plug your better off throwing it in the dumpster and buying another one. If you have gotten 16 years of use out of yours consider yourself fortunate, these units are designed to live for 50 hours and to be honest most of the time that's a stretch. I would have to add that your unit couldn't have seen any real usage. At least not like the use our trimmers see with our grass here in Florida. If you have any mechanical inclination at all you would LAUGH if you saw the INSIDE of that little Two stroke engine.. They are absolute junk, heck they don't even have a real con rod or bearings..

These little units are "OK" for very light use or for retired folks trimming around a flower bed but man they REALLY show their weaknesses when pushed as they run out of power quickly. Use a line with any diameter at all, or fill the spool all the way up and and they fail miserably. Many of them have the R/S (recoil starter assy) in the NOSE of the unit requiring almost complete dis-assembly to repair which is something I will never understand.

My hope is that someday you get a chance to try a REAL Trimmer (even a real 2-stroke) because I'm pretty certain you would smash that old trimmer with a hammer ifya did..
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Originally Posted By: FNFAL308
I was "finally" able to get one of our commercial guy's to put the guards BACK on his equip after a number of associated failures.. Brought him back to my work area, locked a trimmer down in my stand and fired it up.. Running the unit @ WOT with the string at the length it was when he came in I hit it with my DIGI Tach. Once the eng speed was established I started cutting the line about a 1/2" at a time taking more Tach and TEMP readings with my Laser Temp gun.
It was like a LIGHT came on in his head and he seems to have finally grasped what I had tried to tell him before..


I make the same point by having them swing a rope above their head, making it longer and longer. I tell them "pretend your arm is the engine, see how much harder it has to work when the rope(line) is long"? Seems to work, even if they don't replace the guard, at least they're careful about the length of the line from then on.
 
Originally Posted By: FNFAL308
My hope is that someday you get a chance to try a REAL Trimmer (even a real 2-stroke) because I'm pretty certain you would smash that old trimmer with a hammer ifya did..
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