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Originally Posted By: THE_TROTS
As a child I had the pleasure of riding on 611 and 1218 before NS shut down their excursion program...


When the program shut down, it was a sad day. I was able to ride behind both engines as well, and if I wasn't on the trip, I'd usually be able to watch the train as it went by when they'd do their trips from Chicago to Ft. Wayne.
 
I hated that commercial on TV where they showed some fancy car driving through the ruins of a building, and there was a ruined old locomotive in there. And they talked about leaving the dust of the past.

That fancy car will be in a auto junkyard in not so many years and something about the steam locomotive never dies.

It sort of says something about our culture. Some people want to forget the past but it is necessary to know the past. Otherwise people might repeat the errors of the past which we seem to be doing.
 
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Originally Posted By: Benito
There's a difference between learning from the past and living in the past.



Proved my point. You have to know the past to prevent making the same mistakes that people made in the past. And I don't live in the past. I can appreciate the beauty of a steam locomotive but I can run a computer just fine, thank you.

Because I believe in traditional values maybe you think I live in the past. Well, I will continue to believe in traditional values. That does not mean I can't grasp modern technology. And reject modern technology where I think it does harm.

My next door neighbors text each other on their smart phones while they are sitting side by side. That is not for me. I see a lot of young people who have extremely limited knowledge of history. I would rather know a lot about history (which I do) than be an expert at texting on a smartphone.
 
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Originally Posted By: Mystic
Because I believe in traditional values maybe you think I live in the past.


No, I don't think that you (or anyone else) believing in traditional values means that you (or they) are living in the past. The two things are not necessarily linked in my opinion.
 
But you do kind of like to follow me around, don't you? I am not going to let you take this post off course.

I can appreciate a lot of things form the past, including steam locomotives. I can appreciate a lot of old technology without 'living in the past.' I can appreciate WWII aircraft and still admire advanced jet fighter aircraft. I can appreciate ancient Greek technology but I can still like stealth aircraft technology.

Yes, I am 63 years old but that does not mean I live in the past. I will accept what technology works for me and reject what technology that is just a fad or a joke. I would rather ride on a narrow gauge old steam engine train than text all day on a smartphone. I would rather read about an important historical event than spend all day on Facebook and Twitter. I would rather go on a trip and do photography than be an internet troll.

I would love to take another ride in a train pulled by a steam locomotive.
 
Originally Posted By: Mystic
But you do kind of like to follow me around, don't you?


I just took a look at the threads you and I are posting in to try to understand what you are getting at.

Today, as of right now, you've posted in 7 threads. I've posted in 2 of the same ones. This one, where your (off topic) comment about the past caught my eye, and the Lucas one where I've just asked Shannow a question.

So what exactly are you getting at?
 
I am not talking about just today. You had comments on what I had to say in a few posts, such as the post about Jenner and a few others. I can do a little research and make a list if you want.
 
First, I did not take this post far off topic. I merely said I did not like a car commercial where a new car had raced through what looked like an old factory that had a dust covered steam locomotive in it and in the commercial they had talked about leaving behind the dust of the past. This post is about old steam locomotives isn't it? And then you said there is a difference between knowing about the past and living in the past.

Second, I started a post about a new scientific study about the brain and the immune system apparently being connected. You said in a post there that you were happy with how the post I started had gone off topic.

Third, you had comments about what I posted in the post about Jenner and the sex change operation. I had posted about a doctor who had a sex change operation and went back to his girlfriend after the sex change operation. In a post there you asked me what was wrong with two females having a relationship together. This had totally nothing to do with what I had posted about. The doctor was a man before the sex change operation and he was a man when he was living with his girlfriend before the operation. Before the operation she was living with a man (him).

These are just a few examples. I did not go through every single post. With a little effort I will put together a more extensive list.
 
Originally Posted By: Mystic
First, I did not take this post far off topic. I merely said I did not like a car commercial where a new car had raced through what looked like an old factory that had a dust covered steam locomotive in it and in the commercial they had talked about leaving behind the dust of the past. This post is about old steam locomotives isn't it? And then you said there is a difference between knowing about the past and living in the past.


Actually you've missed recounting the following off topic statement you made which was what I responded to.

Originally Posted By: Mystic
It sort of says something about our culture. Some people want to forget the past but it is necessary to know the past. Otherwise people might repeat the errors of the past which we seem to be doing.


And in any case, is there something wrong with my response to your off topic statement? Am I not allowed to respond? Have I broken some rule here?

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Second, I started a post about a new scientific study about the brain and the immune system apparently being connected. You said in a post there that you were happy with how the post I started had gone off topic.


I was responding to several tangential comments that people made that I found interesting. Again, I don't know why you're making such a big deal about this. It was others that went "off topic" in that thread, I just commented how it was interesting. Indeed in that thread, you said that you agreed with some comments I made!

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Third, you had comments about what I posted in the post about Jenner and the sex change operation. I had posted about a doctor who had a sex change operation and went back to his girlfriend after the sex change operation. In a post there you asked me what was wrong with two females having a relationship together. This had totally nothing to do with what I had posted about. The doctor was a man before the sex change operation and he was a man when he was living with his girlfriend before the operation. Before the operation she was living with a man (him).


If I recall that thread correctly, you expressed not understanding why the doctor, who was now a she, was still with the girlfriend and why the girlfriend was happy to be with the doctor, who was now a she.

My answer is simply stating that their reasons are the same as any two women who choose to live together. I don't understand why this is a problematic answer for you.
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And I don't understand why you can't understand when the doctor and his girlfriend were living together BEFORE the operation, they were a man and a woman living together. Not two females. And the doctor, even with the sex change operation, still has male DNA. I wondered why get the sex change operation if he is going to go back to his girlfriend. Seems like a fair question.

So you tried to make it as if I had a problem with two females living together. Trust me, I don't care what two consenting adults do. And I can't control what two adults do. They can live their own lives as long as they leave children alone. If children get involved, I have a problem.

But you managed to get this post off course.

Tell you what, every time you attack what I say in a post I will just notify moderators.
 
Do any of you "rail fans" have a problem with my guy,
E. Hunter Harrison, receiving the Railway Age, Railroader
of the Year 2015, for the second time in his career?
www.cpr.ca

Oh, and that photo is Delta Port Vancouver.
The coal train on the left, with the GE AC44 leading
and the EMD SD40 trailing is leaving Roberts Bank BC.
 
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I don't know anything about him. I just always liked the old steam locomotives and I read a book, when I was a child, about great achievements of various railroad engineers. And trains make a great deal of economic sense. They are more efficient than carrying cargo by trucks. Although at one time the railroads had too much power also. And there was corruption.

Of course the old steam locomotives were inefficient and required a lot of manpower compared to the new diesel electric locomotives. I just love the old steam locomotives however. But I also liked some of the diesel electric trains also. I rode on a old diesel electric train that runs under the Royal Gorge Bridge.

And I have ridden on an Amtrak train all the way to Gallup New Mexico and back.

The new diesel electric trains are pretty efficient. Something like 40% real efficiency. Compared to about 25% efficiency for a gasoline engine car or truck. Cargo can be carried a great distance by a train with good fuel efficiency compared to using trucks.

I have ridden on three different steam locomotive trains and it was great fun. We did have the derailment of one train but it just seemed like a hard stop and it was an adventure.
 
Originally Posted By: used_0il
Do any of you "rail fans" have a problem with my guy,
E. Hunter Harrison, receiving the Railway Age, Railroader
of the Year 2015, for the second time in his career?
www.cpr.ca

Oh, and that photo is Delta Port Vancouver.
The coal train on the left, with the GE AC44 leading
and the EMD SD40 trailing is leaving Roberts Bank BC.

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The engine looks like an old GE.
The train is stopped waiting for
an opposing, descending grade
(eastbound?)to enter the siding.

It looks standard gauge.
I'll guess a Ferromex branch line.
 
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That's a good guess.

Actually it's this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalka%E2%80%93Shimla_Railway
 
I thought about India or perhaps South America,
but I couldn't see a turban or live chickens.

The above??
Well you probably got a EuroRail pass.
431km (267mph) is too slow for the continent,
so it must be... http://www.rail.co.uk/
 
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