Facts are 1.8tsi's die before 100k km, often before 80k km having completed two OCI's.
You obviously have a different understanding of the meaning of 'facts' than most.
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Facts are 1.8tsi's die before 100k km, often before 80k km having completed two OCI's.
Your irony is pointless. Even only below -10C the differences are very significant. In the summer we are splitting hairs about fractions of the second quicker lubrication.
and the only acceptable in the test is rated -48C.
I have made cold starts at -26C - back then I had Motul E-tech 0W-40 in the engine.
Often I have to start below -10C and sometimes around -20C.
Educate yourselves.
No actual car owner should ever use LL - anything, or if he does, it should be used at normal intervals;
Nothing except actual full synthetic oil should ever be used in an owned automobile;
Since on the market there are oils that meet all standards and are actually ILSAC, DEXOS and etc. licensed and have pour points below -50C and flash points above 230C (some even more) - no other lubricant should ever be used;
Long drain intervals, LL service oils, etc. talking about costs should be permissible only between professional fleet manages of fleets of leased vehicles that are expected to be fully used up technically in the lease period and sold at minimal residual value to junk yards or for scrap. those are rental cars, big companies who lease company cars, etc.
->A person who owns or is going to own their vehicle should always be advised to do 6 months / 5k miles OCI with the actual best fully synthetic licensed and approved oil.
People come here and read nonsense, then rely on it.
15 years ago I have read that the modular 4.6-3V mustang is better off with SAE-30 or even-40 and tonns of nonsense.
Later, breakdown after breakdown the forum has came to some knowledge... that for instance the hot idle pressure with 5W-20 is 65psi - 4.5 bar and the hot 2k rpm pressure is 5.2 bar - 75psi... minimum... and everything against lighter weight oils is pure nonsense.
The LL myth is being presently busted throughout the planet by dealers and independent shops. - impossible with mineral based oil, even partially mineral based. Almost impossible with synthetics.
And comes someone to claim that an oil that's officially recognized as low quality engine breaker had stood unoxidized for 5k mi in a you know an M-powered BMW... and the M-power engine stood broosed and unprotected.
Come to your senses and use actual empirical data from practice.
Just like T101, I am from Bulgaria, but I've lived in the US for over 15 years now and I can say, for sure, that there is more counterfeit products in the US, than any other place in the EU.UOA's are not showing high levels of oxidation at 7k or even 10k miles. At least in the United States.
Does your market have a problem over counterfeit products?
I am dead.Just like T101, I am from Bulgaria, but I've lived in the US for over 15 years now and I can say, for sure, that there is more counterfeit products in the US, than any other place in the EU.
That said, there are great oils (RedLine, Amsoil, Ravenol, Castrol) here that can go for 10000mi easy, but, given the price of the engine oils in the US, (often less than a meal for a gallon of oil) I don't see the point of extended oil intervals.
May be it's just me, but I've never run more than 12000mi interval, using synthetic Shell rotella T6, on my 15L Cummins ISX or the 14L Cummins N14.
Internal combustion engines, by design, will always have some blow by, which will put soot in the oil and it doesn't matter how good the oil can keep the soot in suspension, it will saturate quite quickly and start oxidizing.
On the other hand, a well engineered engine ( Japanese ) will go for over half a million miles using nothing but dino oil.
That brings me to another point - doesn't matter how good of an oil you use, if the engine is an over complicated German creation, It WILL fail !
Yeah sure.Haha, yes, a lot,
Mostly not about oil
@edyvw - may be you're dead
Seriously, there is a lot counterfeits online - Amazon comes to mind...
...and yes, I'm not going into specific Japanese engines - there are better and worse ones, but nothing as bad as a VW or a BMW
Ahh ya. Amazon in general. Yes I can see that because of so many sellers are from China. In any case I'm talking about oil specifically. The gentleman claimed that LL oils would oxidize in less than 5k miles because they were not true synthetics. These oils are also used in the US market and UOA's do not support that claim regarding oxidation at even 7k or 10k miles. This lack of support in the US lead me to wonder if counterfeits are the issue in Bulgeria.Haha, yes, a lot,
Mostly not about oil
@edyvw - may be you're dead
Seriously, there is a lot counterfeits online - Amazon comes to mind...
...and yes, I'm not going into specific Japanese engines - there are better and worse ones, but nothing as bad as a VW or a BMW
But he doesn’t offer any factual data about oxidation. His determination that it is oxidation is based on assumption. Nothing else.Ahh ya. Amazon in general. Yes I can see that because of so many sellers are from China. In any case I'm talking about oil specifically. The gentleman claimed that LL oils would oxidize in less than 5k miles because they were not true synthetics. These oils are also used in the US market and UOA's do not support that claim regarding oxidation at even 7k or 10k miles. This lack of support in the US lead me to wonder if counterfeits are the issue in Bulgeria.
It is spelled BULGARIA, not Bulgeria...Ahh ya. Amazon in general. Yes I can see that because of so many sellers are from China. In any case I'm talking about oil specifically. The gentleman claimed that LL oils would oxidize in less than 5k miles because they were not true synthetics. These oils are also used in the US market and UOA's do not support that claim regarding oxidation at even 7k or 10k miles. This lack of support in the US lead me to wonder if counterfeits are the issue in Bulgeria.
Lukoil? You hit jackpot in that case.bulk tank lukoil is not hiding in name brand jugs in america
situation in east is not comparable at all