Amsoil Dealers- Some Specs for me?

[Jim Allen]

I can find EaO filters to fit all my engines but one... My 826 , Neuss D350 power IHC tractor. Filter applications are few for this engine anyway, as it uses a 1-12 thread. The Wix number is 51768. The nominal micron rating is 25 for that filter but no Beta is given.

Donaldson, Baldwin and Fleetguard have filters. The only of this group that offers one in a "premium" line is Fleetguard, which has a Stratapore option. I was able to obtain the Beta for the Fleeguard LF3919 Stratapore, which is B30=200... rather uninspiring overall.

I'd like to see if any of the EaO filters might have some characteristics that could adapt but I can't find any information that lists physical specs. If someone could point me to a place that may list those specs, I'd be grateful.

Another option, of course, is a bypass setup, but I'd also liek to find a better primary filter. Thanks.

 

[Gary Allan]

There's no 1-12 application for an EaO filter. As you can see it's the thread for a Jaguar and some (other) Ford products. Amsoil offers a MANN.

Part Number: 57302
UPC Number: 765809573024
Principal Application: Ford Thunderbird (03-05), Lincoln LS (02-06), Land Rover (05-09), Jaguar (06-09)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.225
Outer Diameter Top: 3.095
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-12
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 16
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=16/25
Burst Pressure-PSI: 375
Max Flow Rate: 12-15 GPM

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.840 2.480 0.210

vs. spec'd filter

Part Number: 51768
UPC Number: 765809517684
Principal Application: ABG Construction Equipment, Bomag, Case/IHC, Deutz Engines, Deutz Tractors, Komatsu, Mitsubishi, Poclain
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 5.178
Outer Diameter Top: 3.660
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-12
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 10-12
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 300
Max Flow Rate: 12-16 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 25

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
15314 2.834 2.462 0.175

W71329 MANN xref's to the spec'd filter.

Here's all the Donaldson offerings in a "lube filter". I swore that there were some hydraulic filters that also had bypass valves, but they didn't show up in my search.

Qty Item Number Item Description Attribute Description Attribute Value


P502032

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 4.25
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 5.14
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.9
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.15
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON COMBINATION
Primary Application ISUZU 8941432050


P502060

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 3.96
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 4.92
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 3.92
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.48
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 11-17
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application MAZDA TFY014302


P502080

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 4.02
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 5.91
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 3.91
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.46
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application MITSUBISHI 32B4000100


P502085

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 4.21
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 3.96
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 3.9
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.46
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 18-24
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application MITSUBISHI 32A4000100


P550317

ELEMENT, LUBE SPIN-ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.74
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 8.31
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.8
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.4
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 34-37
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application RENAULT RVI 5000670671


P550362

LUBE SPIN ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.75
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.99
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 30
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application DEUTZ 1174419


P550409

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 4.02
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 5.91
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 3.92
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.46
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application MAZDA SL0223802


P550422

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 4
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 5.92
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 3.92
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 3.48
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 17
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Y
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application HITACHI 4183853, ISUZU
Primary Application 2 8943212191


P550710

LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.7
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 3.75
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.85
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.45
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 34-37
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application KOMATSU 600-211-6140


P550719

LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.73
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 4.22
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.78
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.43
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 20-24
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application IHC 3136046R93


P550731

LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 4.25
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.82
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 18-23
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application FORD E7HZ6731A (BRAZIALIAN
Primary Application 2 CAB FORWARD)


P551262

LUBE SPIN ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.67
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 8
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.85
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.47
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application NAVISTAR 1808896C1


P551297

LUBE SPIN ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.67
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.88
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.85
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.47
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 18-21
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application KOMATSU/KOMATSU DRESSER
Primary Application 2 6002115213


P551604

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 4.37
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 8.98
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.46
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 18-20
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application FIAT 71909137, IVECO 01901604


P552411

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 3.694
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.987
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.729
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.415
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application CASE 528250R1


P552819

LUBE SPIN ON FULL FLOW

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 5.35
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 18-23
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application DEUTZ, CLARK, HYSTER


P553712

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.85
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER
Primary Application CARRIER, ATLS COPCO,
Primary Application 2 THERMOKING 11.3712


P553771

LUBE SPIN-ON

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 7.87
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 35
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) yes
Product Type Description SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER
Primary Application DEUTZ 1174421,, CASE IH


P553871

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 4.252
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.61
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.82
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application THERMOKING 11.3871


P555616

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.85
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Stand Pipe (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application IHC 675616C91, CASE


P555680

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 5.35
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 18-23
Product Type Description SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER
Primary Application CAT 9N-5680


P557207

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.66
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.85
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 7-10
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application IHC 427207C2


P558250

SPIN-ON LUBE FILTER

A - OD (Inches) 3.81
B - Thread Size (Inches) 1-12
C - Length (Inches) 6.78
D - Gasket OD (Inches) 2.81
E - Gasket ID (Inches) 2.42
Relief Valve Setting (PSI) 11-17
Anti Drain Valve (Y/N) Yes
Product Type Description LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW
Primary Application IHC 528250R91,

 

[Steve S]

I would put all my effort in the air filter and its seal .I just don't see the big deal about oil filters when it cones to real life other that doing super extended oil change intervals with out a filter change, then a Bypass filter would extend the oil life if you were getting into it that far ? How big is your area you farm? farms and ranches to me are some of the coolest things there are.

 

[Jim Allen]

Gary: Thanks for the extra homework. I had all the Donaldson stuff (as well as Baldwin & WIx) but the Mann was a gem... looks to be better than the Wix and even the Stratapore! Smaller, though, but all other specs look comptable

 

[Jim Allen]

SteveS: The air filter is so good that air can barely get through!

Have been "evilly influenced" by a number of SAE papers and studies on the importance of oil filtration. This factor may be as, if not more, important than the actual oil used. I'm looking into the most cost effective ways I can implement this that I can, including filter changes every other oil change, etc.

I am currently on a 2 year, 100 hour OCI but given that this engine has 8300 hours, I would like to get as much soot out of the oil as possible, hence the bypass idea. I have a filter base and a lot of fittings. May build my own setup.

I farm just 45 acres. More than a hobby, less than a job. A "jobbie?" I run it as a business and costs are important. I like to pay myself burger-flipper wages at least.