Amsoil ASL 5w-30/6001 miles/2000 Toyota RAV4 3FSE

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Here is the analysis:
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Driving conditions:

I fall under the severe service interval. I live in Manhattan and I take weekly trips to school out to Suffolk County, Long Island, about 55 miles each way. The car has seen plenty of stop and go traffic,(LIE and BQExpressway) and red lights, when I'm looking for a parking spot around my home. Sometimes I'm stuck for an hour or so in traffic. Once on the highway I do around 60-65 @ 2.5-2.7k rpm.

Maintenance:

An oil filter magnet was used and the EAO oil filter was changed out at 5000 miles. This is due to Amsoil's new OEM invterval policy on toyotas. The remaining 1000 was on a Mobil1 filter. There is a total of 117,000 miles on the dash.

Thoughts:

I realize that this is a tired old engine and it likes to drink motor oil. (About 1 quart per 3000 miles) I've had new valve guide seals put in, which stopped a blue puff of smoke on initial startup in the morning. It has stopped an visible burning of oil at the exhaust. I reason now that I am still getting blowby from either bad piston rings or the guides are getting ready to go. (Yes, I've changed the PCV valve.)

Anyway, I would like to hear recommendations for a cheaper synthetic. I've had my eyeball on Walmart's Supertech Synthetic brand. I'll prefer to have the synthetic since its easier on the engine on cold startups.

Seeing as I can barely reach the 10,000 mark without burning tons of expensive oil, I was hoping to know 5000 intervals with supertech syn and a puralator filter would be safe for my vehicle.
I'll take any input.
 
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Man, do those Toyota's in general ever beat up oil on short OCI's - down to 3.6 TBN at 6k miles, WITH 2 quarts top-off!

I know this is severe service, but still, oil doesn't look like it would do 10k!

Bill in Utah went 10k on this oil, with (I think) 2 quarts of top-off as well, and he had a TBN of 2!

As for a cheaper alternative, I'd just look for whatever synthetic is currently on sale - PP, Synpower, Edge, and go with that. For an low 'everyday' price, WM ST syn wil be your best bet.

IF you like Amsoil, you might wabt to look into their XL line, or even ACD 10W-30/30 oil - cheaper Amsoil options that will do 6-8k with ease.
 
Forgot to annotate: This is the 2nd run of amsoil in the engine. The initial 3k on the report was on Amsoil's SSO line. I did this as a way to 'flush' and clean the engine (yes, I know, wasted money), I even used the flush amsoil recommended.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Man, do those Toyota's in general ever beat up oil on short OCI's - down to 3.6 TBN at 6k miles, WITH 2 quarts top-off!

I know this is severe service, but still, oil doesn't look like it would do 10k!

Bill in Utah went 10k on this oil, with (I think) 2 quarts of top-off as well, and he had a TBN of 2!

As for a cheaper alternative, I'd just look for whatever synthetic is currently on sale - PP, Synpower, Edge, and go with that. For an low 'everyday' price, WM ST syn wil be your best bet.

IF you like Amsoil, you might wabt to look into their XL line, or even ACD 10W-30/30 oil - cheaper Amsoil options that will do 6-8k with ease.


How long do you think I should run the cheaper brands?
5k on PP/M1? same as well for ST?
 
Originally Posted By: pcfxer
Perhaps you might consider AFL or DEO.

Would it be safe to move to a thicker grade? Which one would you think would have a longer extended drain?
 
Originally Posted By: JiGGiE
Here is the analysis:

Seeing as I can barely reach the 10,000 mark without burning tons of expensive oil, I was hoping to know 5000 intervals with supertech syn and a puralator filter would be safe for my vehicle.
I'll take any input.


I can see where you are considering a different approach, and it makes good sense to me, too! If you are going to change your oil twice a year and use a 2 quart addition in between changes to keep the oil level correct, going to a quality semi-synthetic (on $ALE!) or blending your own, say 50/50, by using an ON $ALE! synthetic (i.e. SynPower with rebate, NAPA Syn @ $2.99, PP on rebate, etc.) with a quality dino or semi-syn (DS, CoNoCo Family, etc.) and using this for topping up makes for a significantly le$$ expen$ive proposition. I don't think going to 10W-30 is out of the question, either.

I don't consider the oil brand to be the determining factor here: there is nothing I can see that would prevent you from stockpiling oil for a couple oil changes in advance, as the sales occured, and just going with twice per year changes. Oil analysis every other change? Maybe just one after a year to confirm acceptable results would do it?

On the other hand going to HDD with a once-per-year OCI and using dino make-up quarts might achieve the same thing? It all depend upon whether you want to spend your dough on oil or oil analysis...

Cheers!
 
You could go with ACD, (buy 2 gallons or a case of gallons) and just do annual changes as long as it's under 15K or so, topping up as needed. Maybe change the filter mid year. Just a thought.
 
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