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Mack® LR Electric to Begin Production in 2021 | Mack Trucks

Mack Trucks today announced plans to commercialize the Mack® LR Electric, its revolutionary refuse model equipped with a fully electric integrated.
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...Introduced as a prototype in 2018, the LR Electric features Mack’s fully integrated electric powertrain with twin electric motors and four NMC lithium-ion batteries providing vehicle propulsion, as well as power for all onboard accessories. A unique three-mode regenerative braking system takes into account the truck’s increasing load and helps recapture energy from the hundreds of stops refuse trucks make per day.

In a nod to its unique pedigree and fully electric driveline, LR Electric models will feature a copper Bulldog mounted on the front of each truck...

...To maximize customer uptime, the LR Electric will be monitored by Mack GuardDog® Connect, a proactive telematics solution that monitors vehicle performance to help customers avoid unplanned downtime. LR Electric-focused service training and electrical safety curriculum will also be deployed to the Mack dealer network to ensure customers receive the level of support they’ve come to expect from Mack.

The Mack LR Electric will be manufactured at Mack’s Lehigh Valley Operations (LVO) in Macungie, Pennsylvania, where all heavy-duty Mack trucks built for North America are assembled....
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You are going to have the scrappers grabbing those bulldogs so fast..... LOL!

Any details on the range?
 
How many miles does a city bus actually rack up in a day's time? It's a brutal drive I'm sure, but, I'm wondering it it'd look bad. 100 miles in NYC is probably like an all day drive any place else.
 
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Mack LR Battery Electric Vehicle fit for refuse industry

Mack believes its all-electric truck is a perfect fit for the refuse industry. Discover what makes the Mack LR Battery Electic Vehicle a good fit here on CCJ.
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....Powered by an electric Mack drivetrain, the Mack LR Battery Electric Vehicle (BEV) demonstrator will begin real-world fleet testing in 2020 at New York City Department of Sanitation...

...“Actual range is dependent on a number of factors, but we designed the Mack LR BEV to complete a typical DSNY collection route without disruption of service,” said Curtis Dorwart, Mack Trucks refuse product manager.

The constant stop and go duty cycle particular to refuse hauling will actually help improve battery pack performance while lessening maintenance demands...

...While concerns have been repeatedly raised about the payload and range of all-electric trucks in general, Mack believes the refuse industry will prove to be a good fit for its first battery-powered truck...

...The Mack LR BEV is powered by Mack’s integrated electric powertrain consisting of two 130-kW motors producing a combined 496 peak horsepower and 4,051 lb.-ft. of torque available from zero RPM. Power is sent through a two-speed Mack Powershift transmission and put to the ground by Mack’s proprietary S522R 52,000-lb. rear axles...
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The constant stop and go duty cycle particular to refuse hauling will actually help improve battery pack performance while lessening maintenance demands...

Skillfully worded to say the least. "Exercising" a battery doesn't "improve" anything- it simply allows for getting closer to the design potential and hopefully extending life a bit.

They very "tactically" avoided all comments on range and payload ( hoping to hide it behind carefully manipulated reporting metrics and covered up by tax dollars)

Wonder what the real range and payload projections are and why they aren't touting it? ( they had to have a design standard to spec the components to so they definitely have one and know it)
 
If trucks, with their payload requirements, are to go electric, battery density improvement is key.
Electric is a good fit for the torque needs and stop and go of a garbage truck, but of course there is more.
Regenerative braking may return as much as 20% to the range in a vehicle like this.
 
JeffKeryk said:
If trucks, with their payload requirements, are to go electric, battery density improvement is key.
Electric is a good fit for the torque needs and stop and go of a garbage truck, but of course there is more.
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You'd wonder if overhead wires on key drags would be sufficient to provide high rate charging between residential areas? It's not like that infrastructure isn't already in place for trams, trollies....etc. I assume the problem would be alignment of the bus bars when the vehicle using the feeds isn't on tracks.
 
Fixed routes on a schedule are good for electric drive. The drive train should be more reliable as well. A lot of stops means a lot of regen. Brakes will last a lot longer. Going to pull a lot of current every day for recharging.
 
SubLGT said:
There was nothing in the press release about range.
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They said it is designed for the service route needs. How can a garbage truck have a range, anyway? That's probably why they didn't put a range number, it isn't a car.
 
Farnsworth said:
They said it is designed for the service route needs. How can a garbage truck have a range, anyway? That's probably why they didn't put a range number, it isn't a car.
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Looks like the trash section lifts off and gets handed off to something else … maybe a diesel truck !
 
...And when the shyt tonnage of batteries begin to go bad they can just throw them in the back? Why isn't that thing clad in solar panels ...and maybe a couple windmills on top? I say Good luck to those that buy into these pink elephants.
 
Farnsworth said:
They said it is designed for the service route needs. How can a garbage truck have a range, anyway? That's probably why they didn't put a range number, it isn't a car.
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???

What would you call the distance traveled over the "route"? ( and whatever power for the lift and compaction HPU)
 
OVERKILL said:
You'd wonder if overhead wires on key drags would be sufficient to provide high rate charging between residential areas? It's not like that infrastructure isn't already in place for trams, trollies....etc. I assume the problem would be alignment of the bus bars when the vehicle using the feeds isn't on tracks.
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That would appear as a step backwards in areas with underground utilities.
 
I’d like to see the range/work capacity of this truck. With all the mechanics of picking up containers and compacting inside, the power demands on the batteries have to be huge.
 
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