Affordable Care Act

[ddrumman2004]

I never could log into the site on my pc. I did manage on my Kindle Fire.
I was told I would receive an email with a link to check costs and eligibility so I checked email on my laptop. I clicked the link in the email only to be taken to a page that stated "Access Denied".
Here is what I saw:

"Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.healthcare.gov/spawaitingroom/spawaitingroom.html?" on this server.

Reference #18.9a15eb3f.1380800865.70901ae "


Sorry, we can't find that page
www.healthcare.gov

 

[Swarmlord]

Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek

I don't understand all that hysteria either and especially trying to politilize the healthcare in the first place.


1. People don't want Government getting bigger.

2. People DO NOT want to be FORCED to purchase something they don't want.

3. People do not want to pay into a product that they disagree with for ethical, moral or religious reasons (ie. healthcare that offers government funded abortions)

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: Swarmlord
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek

I don't understand all that hysteria either and especially trying to politilize the healthcare in the first place.


1. People don't want Government getting bigger.

2. People DO NOT want to be FORCED to purchase something they don't want.

3. People do not want to pay into a product that they disagree with for ethical, moral or religious reasons (ie. healthcare that offers government funded abortions)


Exactly right!

To that I'd add that I don't want to be forced to provide for someone else's healthcare against my will. They smoke, drink, eat nothing but McDonald's, are 5 foot 2 inches tall and 305 pounds.

 

[demarpaint]

Right now the Affordable Care Act is causing me grief and will cost me more money for a comparable plan to what I have expiring Dec 31, 2013.

 

[Touring5]

After spending about 30 minutes trying to create my account, I had to give up. The page where you select and answer questions didn't display any questions.

My current personal health insurance plan will dissolve on Dec. 31 and I am forced into the ACA exchanges. I am at their mercy now. The one thing about this law that doesn't make any sense is, as in my case, I won't be eligible for the subsidy because my income is TOO LOW. That's right, If I made more money my insurance would be cheaper. Unbelievable.

 

[demarpaint]

There are a lot of scams going on too as a result of this. No way am I giving a SS number to anyone on the phone or via a website.

 

[rjundi]

Originally Posted By: Swarmlord

3. People do not want to pay into a product that they disagree with for ethical, moral or religious reasons (ie. healthcare that offers government funded abortions)


Don't drink the kool-aid (eg fabrications)

No effect on me personally since wife employer offers full health care for her working 20hrs/week. The employers who cut workers back hours to make folks eligible should go out of business and hopefully the cream of the crop will go past them.

Real employers and decent companies do not do such things.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: rjundi


Real employers and decent companies do not do such things.




If they want to stay in business, they don't have much choice.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: Swarmlord

3. People do not want to pay into a product that they disagree with for ethical, moral or religious reasons (ie. healthcare that offers government funded abortions)


Don't drink the kool-aid (eg fabrications)

No effect on me personally since wife employer offers full health care for her working 20hrs/week. The employers who cut workers back hours to make folks eligible should go out of business and hopefully the cream of the crop will go past them.

Real employers and decent companies do not do such things.




+1

 

[Trajan]

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/09/obamacare-myths/

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-myths.php

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-...mployer-mandate

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/07/11/t...d-and-debunked/

 

[TechnoLoGs]

Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: rjundi


Real employers and decent companies do not do such things.




If they want to stay in business, they don't have much choice.


My Dunkin Donuts gave me some form about it a few days ago. I did lose the form but it was to the effect of ACA.

Oh, and IBTL.

 

[TechnoLoGs]

I had Public Assistance medical insurance in PA.. does the new ACA law override it, and I have it in NJ automatically now? (My hospital stays for mental health, etc)

 

[DBMaster]

Plenty of large corporations, especially public ones, decide that a certain expense, or expectation of an expense, is "unaffordable." All this means is that it will change a number on an income statement or balance sheet to something different from what they reported to the stockholders as a possibility. It DOES NOT mean that cannot afford it or even that it will reduce the company to a less than profitable condition. It is all politics. Eventually, all of us will be removed from the company teet and will equate health care as another "right" in the USA. Since we do not refuse people care in dire need we have "decided" that it is a right, v. a privilege.

As soon as we are able to divorce our employer from health care we will become a more flexible workforce and the advantage will be ours, rather than the employer's. The "little" fact that preexisting conditions will no longer be a factor in coverage has already freed up many of us to look for new jobs.

People in this country just do not realize the power they have given to corporations by allowing employer based health care to dominate for the past four decades.

 

[eljefino]

^ Bravo!!!

If you really want to be "small business friendly" make things fair for someone starting out a small business!!!

I'll throw in that "just because the boss says it's true" doesn't make it true... any more so than a politician favored or unfavored, or any other human with several conflicting motives.

 

[DBMaster]

Divorce health care from your employer altogether and then small business has a MUCH better chance of succeeding. I have plenty of anecdotes to offer, but you don't need them, people.

^If you can make any sort if plausible argument against this statement I dare you to do so.

 

[TechnoLoGs]

Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Divorce health care from your employer altogether and then small business has a MUCH better chance of succeeding. I have plenty of anecdotes to offer, but you don't need them, people.

^If you can make any sort if plausible argument against this statement I dare you to do so.

 

[hattaresguy]

Pretty much, I actually think its a pretty good plan. My costs will go from $250 a month to around $220 with a slightly raised deductible, so not the end of the world.

The big thing is to get everyone to pay into the system. Because right now if your broke you can just go to a hospital and get free care. This has to be paid for by someone. Its no different than requiring insurance to own a car.

 

[Swarmlord]

Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Its no different than requiring insurance to own a car.


Except that the government doesn't force people to get auto insurance if they don't have/operate a vehicle.

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: Swarmlord
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Its no different than requiring insurance to own a car.


Except that the government doesn't force people to get auto insurance if they don't have/operate a vehicle.


I mean you you don't want to live and need healthcare, there are some options available too.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: hattaresguy

The big thing is to get everyone to pay into the system. Because right now if your broke you can just go to a hospital and get free care. This has to be paid for by someone. Its no different than requiring insurance to own a car.


Well said. Of course some will argue that cars are a priveledge and life is a right... And that right to life somehow allows one exemption from healthcare, for whatever far-fetched reason that they would want to. Then again, without health insurance, get badly ill once and that "right" is a moot point...