Advice on siphoning gas

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I am in the process of replacing a "dead" fuel pump on my 2003 Grand Marquis and need advice on removing most of the gas from the tank.. There's about 3/4 tank of gas in the tank. I tried using a small hose into the spout and a manual hand pump but there's some kind of theft device in the spout preventing the hose from entering the tank. The tank doesn't need to be dropped and I was hoping for a better way than removing the pump assembly and having the gas come gushing out like Niagra Falls. I was thinking of removing the line off the fuel filter outlet, attaching a hose and try pumping out. I don't know if gas can be extracted this way or not. There's no shrader valve on the fuel rail starting on 2003.
 

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Done that. Every video assumes the fuel pump still runs and uses the pump to remove the gas from the tank.
 
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Either the outlet is below the tank and gravity will drain the tank when you undo a line, or it's coming out the top and then it either drains out or it doesn't.

I take it the fuel pump is not inside the tank and accesible through a hatch? in that case all you need to do is open the doors and work outside or in a well vented space.
 
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Have done many crown vics if the tank is 3/4 just drop the tank as is ........note on the high mile beat up patrol cars I have done we actually cut a hole in the trunk in the appropriate location and gain acces to the pump then make a sheet metal cover and use ultra black to seal it back up

If it's a customer car we take the tank completely down
 

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Doesn't the pump assembly come out from the top of the tank? If so, why would the gas come gushing out when you remove the pump?
It's a weird shaped tank. Pump/ sender assy is side mounted facing the front about six- eight inches behind differential cover.
 

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I thought I would share this as it might help someone in a similiar situation some day.

Pulled the fuel line off the oulet side of the fuel filter. Connected the pump's hose to the filter nipple and started using the hand pump. I was able to drain 15 gallons out of the tank in about 45 minutes and no spilled fuel.
 
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I have a few siphon hoses with this one-way rattle valve.
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IIRC, they fit through the tank filler restrictor flap.
 
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There's probably a fuel filler assembly, then a hose, then the tank. Disconnect that hose at the tank nipple... except you already found another way.
 

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There's probably a fuel filler assembly, then a hose, then the tank. Disconnect that hose at the tank nipple... except you already found another way.
I have read there is some kind of baffle at the tank's inlet to prevent gas theft. My curiosity doesn't outweigh the task of removing the spout. to see.
 
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There is a plastic ball to prevent theft it can be "popped" into the tank or out if the filler neck is out
 
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Also are you sure there isn't a drain plug on the tank? I know my BMW and the Accord have one. Also the ECHO I think. On the Accord it was covered up with thick rustproofing or whatever that stuff is.
 
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