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Horrible efficiency. @bullwinkle nailed it on the head.@I<3oil
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Horrible efficiency. @bullwinkle nailed it on the head.@I<3oil
What's so funny?
Okay...Horrible efficiency. @bullwinkle nailed it on the head.
Where's your evidence it won't do more than any other modem oil?No, the main purpose of Valvoline Restore & Protect is to lubricate your engine. It's motor oil. It's not a flush. It's not a solvent. It's not going to do a lot more than any other modern quality motor oil will. You're not going to have a bunch of gravel circulating around in your engine by using it necessitating using a better filter.
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46 microns at 99% and 22 microns at 50% doesn't seem that horrible. And if you believe in these guys' testing methods, the BOSS actually performs better than spec'd.
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Umm...if you're considering the results in that video, that is not horrible at all. It's pretty much inline with the Fram Endurance.Yeah that’s pretty horrible for a “top of the line” premium filter.
the data in this video is not to be taken as gospel. there are standardized tests for a reason. this test below is a standardized test following ISO-4548-12. the BOSS is not a filter for anyone who cares about efficiency.Umm...if you're considering the results in that video, that is not horrible at all. It's pretty much inline with the Fram Endurance.
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That data is over 3 years old now. I'm not saying it's wrong, but if the filtering efficiency is good (slightly less than the Fram Endurance) and the dust holding capacity is better, then I have no problem using it.the data in this video is not to be taken as gospel. there are standardized tests for a reason. this test below is a standardized test following ISO-4548-12. the BOSS is not a filter for anyone who cares about efficiency.
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it doesn’t matter if the data is 3 years old, the test is still a standard test. the Boss is nowhere near the endurance efficiency wise so i don’t know where you get “slightly” from. OP asked what the best filter they could buy is, and it’s the endurance not the boss, simple.That data is over 3 years old now. I'm not saying it's wrong, but if the filtering efficiency is good (slightly less than the Fram Endurance) and the dust holding capacity is better, then I have no problem using it.
We’re not considering the results in the video. So if all your argument is from that video, you don’t have one that anyone is going to entertain.Umm...if you're considering the results in that video, that is not horrible at all. It's pretty much inline with the Fram Endurance.
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Correkt good chapit doesn’t matter if the data is 3 years old, the test is still a standard test. the Boss is nowhere near the endurance efficiency wise so i don’t know where you get “slightly” from. OP asked what the best filter they could buy is, and it’s the endurance not the boss, simple.
I have none. Just like Valvoline has no evidence that proves that it will. It's all just marketing.Where's your evidence it won't do more than any other modem oil?
As deposits leave the engine, where do they go? Do the deposits have any effect on oil filter performance or longevity?
Valvoline’s Active Clean technology chemically dissolves deposits into microscopic pieces, which are then suspended in the motor oil, eventually leaving the engine during the next oil change. There is no impact to the performance or longevity of the oil filter.
argumentum ad ignorantiamI have none. Just like Valvoline has no evidence that proves that it will. It's all just marketing.
And that's beside the point anyway since whatever it does clean up will not overwhelm the filter or require you to use a more efficient one.
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Read the FAQ. It's just a really good motor oil doing its job, just like it's supposed to.
You haven't seen my Nissan Versa posts then. It's my opinion so far, that it is cleaning. At a relatively quick rate as well. Also, they have the data they've shown the piston results. Although those are a requirement to have certain certs.I have none. Just like Valvoline has no evidence that proves that it will. It's all just marketing.
And that's beside the point anyway since whatever it does clean up will not overwhelm the filter or require you to use a more efficient one.
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Read the FAQ. It's just a really good motor oil doing its job, just like it's supposed to.
Is the Fram Ultra in those results wire backed? Do we know that today’s FU will perform the same? That’s the potential relevance of the data being 3 years old.it doesn’t matter if the data is 3 years old, the test is still a standard test. the Boss is nowhere near the endurance efficiency wise so i don’t know where you get “slightly” from. OP asked what the best filter they could buy is, and it’s the endurance not the boss, simple.
Yeah because some how your car cares about all the regurgitated info parroting even though it will last just as long with any of the filters listed. Even with the new squishy, mushy, holey ultra.BOSS is not a filter for anyone who cares about efficiency.
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46 microns at 99% and 22 microns at 50% doesn't seem that horrible. And if you believe in these guys' testing methods, the BOSS actually performs better than spec'd.
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we don’t and i never claimed the updated ultra was the same. i refuse to spin on any of the new Fram filters other than the Endurance and primarily use Premium guard carquest premiums at work unless going with full sump of HPL at work. the filter tested there was an OG wire backed filter and why i have a massive stock pile of them stashed.Is the Fram Ultra in those results wire backed? Do we know that today’s FU will perform the same? That’s the potential relevance of the data being 3 years old.
less particulate in the oil film = less wear. that is physics. again, the OP asked for the “best” filter. the endurance/royal purple/amsoil by champion is the single best filter currently available on shelves.Yeah because some how your car cares about all the regurgitated info parroting even though it will last just as long with any of the filters listed. Even with the new squishy, mushy, holey ultra.
The question was about filters that could be bought today. Your stockpile of old stock is irrelevant with regards to this post.we don’t and i never claimed the update ultra was the same. the filter tested there was an OG wire backed filter and why i have a massive stock pile of them stashed.