A good synopsis of modern engine failures

Honestly safety stuff is adding complexity, too. In the same week I had to fix "Service Stabilitrak" in a GM and "Service Advancetrac" in a Ford. No, neither was just a wheel speed sensor.

Add in things like federally mandated backup cameras and manufacturers look to offset those costs by cutting corners elsewhere.

Look, ABS is fine. Airbags are fine. But I don't need traction or yaw control. I don’t need a BUC. I don't need blind spot monitoring or collision avoidance, or a windshield that requires "calibration" after replacement. The consumer thinks these things sound good, but if you can't DIY it increases the cost of ownership.
These same people in charge, with a cultist agenda, take over dual lane automotive roadways per side and “steal” a lane for bicycles. In many cases, they’re for “ghost bikes,” placed right next to fast-moving automobiles and trucks. Then they act surprised when there are accidents and deaths. They force a 40 mph road down to 30/25 mph, and there are still accidents because they’ve put bikes and fast automobiles in the same plane.
 
I just bought a 2025 Rav4 LE AWD gasoline only version. At my age, it should only have about 80,000 miles on it when I mistake the throttle for the brake and drive thru the front of a convenience store 😂😂
 
The cows are their property. Are farmers not responsible for the manure their animals leave behind which enters your drinking water supplies or well?
No it is a cost of living. A cost of modern society, which has to be paid by all.

It is a slippery slope to say that the emission from your tailpipe, contributed to the lung cancer of your friend. If so, should you be held liable to a crime.

If the lawsuit were at your door, I would say you would be singing a different tune.
 
No it is a cost of living. A cost of modern society, which has to be paid by all.

It is a slippery slope to say that the emission from your tailpipe, contributed to the lung cancer of your friend. If so, should you be held liable to a crime.

If the lawsuit were at your door, I would say you would be singing a different tune.
This is what private property rights are about. Basically you're advocating for state sponsored pollution at a level you agree with. I can bet if your neighbor burned his leaves every day and the smoke settled on your property you'd get tired of that real quick.
 
This is what private property rights are about. Basically you're advocating for state sponsored pollution at a level you agree with. I can bet if your neighbor burned his leaves every day and the smoke settled on your property you'd get tired of that real quick.
No. You are wrong. There is also a personal responsibility aspect to things as well......... that is what most folks with the same views as yourself do understand or accept. Smoke billowing into my house from my neighbors yard everyday is a clear and present danger, with a direct effect. Also, the whole world is not burning leaves to produce energy. Not even close. One is direct, provable, quanitfiable, etc, the other is like I said before, a stretch.

Systems in common use, used by all, the burden of the cost is shared by all, both risk and reward.

Cars today, with all the extra garbage to increase MPG, were not asked for by the public, and if given a choice, would mothball them and move back to something with less power, but lower cost and higher reliability.

Hopefully the EPA rollback of some regs will thin the herd of the morons who led everything this way............you know the ones.
 
These same people in charge, with a cultist agenda, take over dual lane automotive roadways per side and “steal” a lane for bicycles. In many cases, they’re for “ghost bikes,” placed right next to fast-moving automobiles and trucks. Then they act surprised when there are accidents and deaths. They force a 40 mph road down to 30/25 mph, and there are still accidents because they’ve put bikes and fast automobiles in the same plane.
I know a place where they did just that - years later I have yet to see a bicycle. What I do see often is an ambulance being this is on the ER side of a large hospital. Brilliant.
 
No. You are wrong. There is also a personal responsibility aspect to things as well......... that is what most folks with the same views as yourself do understand or accept. Smoke billowing into my house from my neighbors yard everyday is a clear and present danger, with a direct effect.

Yet it's currently legal.
Systems in common use, used by all, the burden of the cost is shared by all, both risk and reward.

Cars today, with all the extra garbage to increase MPG, were not asked for by the public, and if given a choice, would mothball them and move back to something with less power, but lower cost and higher reliability.

Hopefully the EPA rollback of some regs will thin the herd of the morons who led everything this way............you know the ones.
Yes it is out of practical considerations.

Anyways the purpose is to reduce emissions and try to delay potential negative global outcomes of AGW. This is on top of an ever expanding global economy where the numbers of vehicles on the road increases every year.

Look I get it. This is a problem of time preference. Most people have short time preferences. They don't really care about what could happen 2-3 generations from now.
 
Yet it's currently legal.

Yes it is out of practical considerations.

Anyways the purpose is to reduce emissions and try to delay potential negative global outcomes of AGW. This is on top of an ever expanding global economy where the numbers of vehicles on the road increases every year.

Look I get it. This is a problem of time preference. Most people have short time preferences. They don't really care about what could happen 2-3 generations from now.
If the goal was MPG, then a civilian car should have no more than 80hp. You dont need more to get your hot pockets at Foodlion.. Do that and the goal would be met easily. Trucks, 300 hp, because they actually move the country....... Or just limit the speed limit back to 55, instant 25% fuel economy gain.

If the goal was to limit CO2 emissions, then HVAC systems should be outlawed, as heating, cooling and refrigeration is #1 in energy consumption in climates like the north or south.

What "can happen" 2-3 generations from now, always seems to be 2-3 generations away. Always.
 
If the goal was MPG, then a civilian car should have no more than 80hp. You dont need more to get your hot pockets at Foodlion.. Do that and the goal would be met easily. Trucks, 300 hp, because they actually move the country....... Or just limit the speed limit back to 55, instant 25% fuel economy gain.

If the goal was to limit CO2 emissions, then HVAC systems should be outlawed, as heating, cooling and refrigeration is #1 in energy consumption in climates like the north or south.

What "can happen" 2-3 generations from now, always seems to be 2-3 generations away. Always.
Perhaps. Automakers are free produce vehicles which meet your preferences as a consumer. The regulations don't specify the "How".
 
This. I only have 78K, but it's tuned on 93 since almost new, making 350-360 HP (gross, and probably 430+ torque) and I beat the living snot out of it every time I drive it.

I've had it on a full day road course twice, when I was learning, figured it was the easiest thing to drive (auto/AWD).
Also probably has 25-30 or so drag strip runs.
Usíng what for oil and filter,,,,,?
 
Back to the point of thread, it is a fact that these systems are creating issues, and have been for a long time. We will see what the rollback of EPA regs will do for the industry. And maybe get the govt minders out of the engineering process.

Edit: Yes insurance is the driver for building codes, that and fire fighting. Insurance or the ability of a company not to issue coverage is also another form of code compliance.
ICEs have hit the point of diminishing returned when it comes to getting power but also returning decent MPG and keeping CARB and the EU(China, Japan/Korea, Australia/New Zealand and other nations not in Southeast Asia, the Middle East or sub-Saharan Africa follow Euro standards for emissions) happy. Small, high-strung TGDI engines like the ones GM and Honda are pushing are essentially a throwaway part. Everyone has the right to breathe clean air - but GDI has increased NOx and PM emissions to the point where EGR and now particulate filters are making their way to cars. EGR + DPF + SCR has made diesels cleaner - but at the expense of durability, reliability all for slightly lower PM2.5/NOx emissions. The automakers design for the future - while the current admin has rolled back, they aren’t taking the bait.

Now, for insurance companies, the goal of one is to ensure their investors are getting a return on equity, they just happen be in the business of underwriting risk. They would love to pay out less injury/property damage/death claims. Call it overreach - but the electronic nannies, mandated backup cameras, ADAS and restraint systems do help prevent accidents or the severity of such. Decades ago, a moderate crash would have resulted in major injuries or the coroner coming out. Now, in many cases, you can unbuckle your seat belt, open the door and walk away. But with the love affair the US has with trucks and SUVs, the IIHS is concerned with both vehicle incompablity in a crash and pedestrian/car conflict. The same can be said about building and fire codes - the home and commercial insurers along with the ICC, NFPA, and state/local authorities having jurisdiction are the main drivers for this(I know friends of friends who perished in a building fire that was easily preventable but blame here falls on multiple entities), and a property insurer is just as interested in reducing risk and payouts.

Tort law and the rise of the trial “injury” lawyer is why insurance is high in some states(CA and FL for example). Sure, cars are expensive to fix these days, but an insurance company sending counsel and lawyers to represent their insured if someone sics a trial lawyer on them is even more expensive.
 
There are countries in Europe that tax vehicles based on displacement or CO2 emissions. Manufacturers try to get the lowest emissions and most power out of an engine to please the market and please the gov at the same time.
Limiting HP won't get you there. A good old 1930s car could have a biiiiiig polluting and gas guzzling engine and little HP.
 
There are countries in Europe that tax vehicles based on displacement or CO2 emissions. Manufacturers try to get the lowest emissions and most power out of an engine to please the market and please the gov at the same time.
Limiting HP won't get you there. A good old 1930s car could have a biiiiiig polluting and gas guzzling engine and little HP.
The old VW MK1 Jetta/Golf and OG CiviRollas got great MPG but had primitive fuel systems(Bosch K-Jet or a very complicated Keihin or Aisan carb) compared to what Detroit mustered during the Malaise Era. Mercedes also used K-Jet until the 1990s but US-spec cars made less power than Euro-spec models with cats, EGR and lower compression.

What Honda did with CVCC and carbs in the the 1970s-1980s was engineering genius.
 
A close friend had the first Fox body ‘83 Mustang GT 302, with the Holley carb, and the 5 speed-I only drove it once, that was enough, I would have probably killed myself in that car…
I used to eat those 140hp mustangs alive with my 78 toyota pickup.

I had 4.35 gears, isky 505 cam, ported head, Thorley hedder and a 350cfm 2bbl holley carb..

Just like farm truck Friday and Saturday night we would go fishing for victims then all meet out at the local deserted road to drag race on.
 
1974 Mustang pinto. Of course nothing had much power back then. I took my 78 Z28 to Germany with me and little 4 cylinder cars would pass me.
I put 3:42 gears, a B&M Transpak, Edelbrock Performer intake, Q-Jet carburetor, Crane Hi-Torque camshaft, recurved distributor, headers and 3” dual exhausts with CBQ mufflers on a 1974 Monte Carlo fitted with a 350 SBC. I could take most any new car built in the 70’s-early 80’s short of a few exotics.
 
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I put 3:42 gears, a B&M Transpak, Edelbrock Performer intake, Q-Jet carburetor, Crane Hi-Torque camshaft, recurved distributor, headers and 3” dual exhausts with CBQ mufflers on a 1974 Monte Carlo fitted with a 350 SBC. I could take most any new car built in the 70’s-early 80’s short of a few exotics.
Remember the swivel bucket seats in some Monte Carlo's? I loved those seats.
 
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