77MPG Volkswagen Passat TDI

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I saw this the other day and thought that I would pass it on for thoughts. In the early 1980s I had a Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel that would manage between 50 and 60 MPG. We drove from Houston all the way to Yellowstone and back for mere pittance. It was slow, but sure all the way.

77MPG Volkswagen Passat
 
Originally Posted By: JAG
That's awesome. My next car will likely be a VW with a TDI engine. Thanks for the article.


+1 I'm currently looking.
 
77mpg can only be achieved through careful, planned driving techniques...including but not limited to hypermiling.

Actual mileage should be around 48mpg to 58mpg, still better than most gasoline engined automobiles.

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Does the TDI passat cost alot more up front than a gas version? I suppose it depends on price vs gasoline vs fuel cost savings. I agree that i doubt itd get 77mpg..but its still great mileage.
 
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Does the TDI passat cost alot more up front than a gas version? I suppose it depends on price vs gasoline vs fuel cost savings. I agree that i doubt itd get 77mpg..but its still great mileage.

You can get a basic one for about $25k. The Jetta TDI can be had for around $21k, and the Golf TDI for $23k. It's a few thousand dollars over the gasoline engine, so you'll probably break even if your only concern is cost. I think the added torque makes it a win.

Edit - I see that you're in Canada, so I don't know how they're priced where you are. I shop at Maguire in Ithaca, NY mostly because they have a fixed price format.

If only Subaru would bring me a diesel Forester...
 
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Does the TDI passat cost alot more up front than a gas version? I suppose it depends on price vs gasoline vs fuel cost savings. I agree that i doubt itd get 77mpg..but its still great mileage.

At a single glance there is about 2K price difference (on the VW website) between the gas SE model and the TDI SE model:

VW Passat Trim Models

The other thing to consider is that diesel engines last nearly forever. My rabbit had about 300K on it when I sold it and it still ran great.
 
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Hypermiling for a cross country trip would be horrible.

I also like the irony of burning fuel just to prove you can save fuel
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I have one of these cars. We ordered it last October and picked it up in January. We have put nearly 14k miles on it those 6+ months. Its lifetime fuel economy is approximately 42.5, with the best tank coming in right at 49. It costs less than 9 cents per mile to operate (fuel only). Being lighter on the skinny pedal would bring up the MPGs, I'm sure, but I can't say that I have the patience for that...

I could not drive the car slow enough for long enough to average 77mpg. It would be painful. I am currently 1k miles away from home. The car averaged 43mpg at 80mph for the trip down.

We are happy with the car. It is my wife's daily driver and our trip car. It eats up miles, is comfortable, and so far - reliable. For a car this size

I wouldn't have bought a Passat if it weren't for the TDI.
 
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Why do they call it a TDI diesel. Aren't all diesel engines direct injection by design?


Small diesels used to have indirect injection before TDI.

T is also for turbo.
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar
Hypermiling for a cross country trip would be horrible.

I also like the irony of burning fuel just to prove you can save fuel
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I never hypermilled in my Rabbit and it was always above 50MPG; it only makes me wonder what it would have been if I had. I no longer have the owner's manual, but there was a statement in it that said something to the effect if the mileage dropped below 40MPG to take it to the dealer that something was wrong and needed to be checked/repaired.
 
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
I saw this the other day and thought that I would pass it on for thoughts. In the early 1980s I had a Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel that would manage between 50 and 60 MPG. We drove from Houston all the way to Yellowstone and back for mere pittance. It was slow, but sure all the way.


Yap, I used to drive Fiat Uno diesel in 80's that got up to 60 MPG. That car was slow (1-60 in under 20 sec; 45HP), very light (1800 lbs), and very unsafe (I totaled it). Very hard to compare to today's cars.
 
I had three VW Jettas and the last one cure me from owning one again. I will never let another VW stain my driveway again. Poor quality, poor design, and definitely poor support from VWoA. Others have said it, but buying a new VW is buying a new car with no warranty.
 
Originally Posted By: Sunnyinhollister
I had three VW Jettas and the last one cure me from owning one again. I will never let another VW stain my driveway again. Poor quality, poor design, and definitely poor support from VWoA. Others have said it, but buying a new VW is buying a new car with no warranty.


Can you give a bit more detail on this ?
 
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