Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: Artem
People need to keep their cars for longer, until it's paid off, AND THEN you're free to go trade it in if you want. Use that 2-3k car value as your down payment on the next one, of you want.
This is currently not possible. Given that most vehicles since the mid 2000's are all made with plastic engine and powertrain components, means that they simply cannot be maintained long term without considerable repair/rebuild costs.
Add to that the computer software required to repair and service these vehicles, makes your statement financially silly. Much cheaper and easier to simply get a new(er) vehicle.
Now, don't get me started on the soy based wiring insulation and interior panels, seats etc which all have a finite life expectancy.
Figured that a Luddite would show up in this thread.
Plastic parts, just like everything else you own?
Meanwhile, todays cars last longer without major repairs through their working lives than have any that preceded them.
Finite component lives?
When were they anything else?
I'm confident that our newer vehicles will be just fine out to 200K+, plastic parts or not.
Yes and no.
Custom software and tool to diagnose? There's ebay knock off for that.
Plastic engine? Sure, if that's not the weakest link (these days it is the direct injection and timing chain guide), bad transmission design is probably the only thing you cannot do anything about because by the time you realize it is too late. You can buy from manufacturers that have reputation and have a history of extending the warranty to 150k miles, and then just rebuild or buy used junkyard unit to swap in when it is old.
Seriously, repairing cars are expensive these days and many good cars are sold to export after accidents than repair locally. The most expensive part is the paint job, and there's nothing you can do if you don't have full coverage insurance and got into accident at your fault. New car or not.
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: Artem
People need to keep their cars for longer, until it's paid off, AND THEN you're free to go trade it in if you want. Use that 2-3k car value as your down payment on the next one, of you want.
This is currently not possible. Given that most vehicles since the mid 2000's are all made with plastic engine and powertrain components, means that they simply cannot be maintained long term without considerable repair/rebuild costs.
Add to that the computer software required to repair and service these vehicles, makes your statement financially silly. Much cheaper and easier to simply get a new(er) vehicle.
Now, don't get me started on the soy based wiring insulation and interior panels, seats etc which all have a finite life expectancy.
Figured that a Luddite would show up in this thread.
Plastic parts, just like everything else you own?
Meanwhile, todays cars last longer without major repairs through their working lives than have any that preceded them.
Finite component lives?
When were they anything else?
I'm confident that our newer vehicles will be just fine out to 200K+, plastic parts or not.
Yes and no.
Custom software and tool to diagnose? There's ebay knock off for that.
Plastic engine? Sure, if that's not the weakest link (these days it is the direct injection and timing chain guide), bad transmission design is probably the only thing you cannot do anything about because by the time you realize it is too late. You can buy from manufacturers that have reputation and have a history of extending the warranty to 150k miles, and then just rebuild or buy used junkyard unit to swap in when it is old.
Seriously, repairing cars are expensive these days and many good cars are sold to export after accidents than repair locally. The most expensive part is the paint job, and there's nothing you can do if you don't have full coverage insurance and got into accident at your fault. New car or not.
