Bretfraz,
Thanks for posting the link.
Thanks for posting the link.
303 And Tires
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sxg6, if you want to get rid of that brown haze on the tires, try Mother's Back to Black. You should be able to find it at any auto parts store. It's made specifically to restore black rubber to a like-new appearance.
I stopped using tire dressings a while back, but I didn't want to be stuck with that awful brown haze that those products leave behind. Back to Black did the trick nicely. Apply it generously. I found a plastic-bristled brush to be the best, not a rag. Let it dry a few minutes, then wipe it off. You shouldn't have to reapply it. The tires should stay black for a good long while. They won't get real shiny with this, either.
I stopped using tire dressings a while back, but I didn't want to be stuck with that awful brown haze that those products leave behind. Back to Black did the trick nicely. Apply it generously. I found a plastic-bristled brush to be the best, not a rag. Let it dry a few minutes, then wipe it off. You shouldn't have to reapply it. The tires should stay black for a good long while. They won't get real shiny with this, either.
Interesting comments from the 303 rep.
Everyone should take note of his position about product storage and temperature. This is very true of most car care products. If they freeze, they're usually history. The active ingredients either die or are altered in a way where they no longer work as they should. The only recourse is replacement of the product.
Also note the usage procedure. Most people tend to slather on too much product, then walk away. Instead you've got to clean the tire first, then apply the product, let it set up, and buff off until its dry. This way the polymer protectant has penetrated the tire yet the tire looks like new, not like its been dipped in baby oil.
Hopefully it will work out for you. At least it's good to know 303 will offer a refund if you're not satisfied. Thank you for keeping us in the loop.
Everyone should take note of his position about product storage and temperature. This is very true of most car care products. If they freeze, they're usually history. The active ingredients either die or are altered in a way where they no longer work as they should. The only recourse is replacement of the product.
Also note the usage procedure. Most people tend to slather on too much product, then walk away. Instead you've got to clean the tire first, then apply the product, let it set up, and buff off until its dry. This way the polymer protectant has penetrated the tire yet the tire looks like new, not like its been dipped in baby oil.
Hopefully it will work out for you. At least it's good to know 303 will offer a refund if you're not satisfied. Thank you for keeping us in the loop.
i went to the boating store, and talked to them some more. the store is open year round, so the 303 is in a heated environment year round. all product is fairly new, as it moves quickly.
after posting that last reply, i spoke with roger from 303 some more on the phone. very very nice man by the way. he shared a ton of info with me on 303 protectant. i dont remember exactly word for word what he said. but this is what i remember.
whatever surface youre coating with 303, make sure that it gets throughly saturated with the product. it really has to be good and wet. and always wipe dry after giving it time to absorb. that is what i believe i did wrong. i applied 303, waited 5 minutes, and removed the excess instead of wiping dry.
i also asked him about the windshield fogging. he said that either 303 is getting sprayed on the windshield, or it is not being wiped dry enough afterwards, and is evaporating onto the windshield. (if that sounds right, i forget his exact words.) he also said traditional products like windex and such wont get 303 off glass, it is best to try and remove it dry.
he also said cv boots should get protected by 303 as well. the heating up and cooling down breaks down the rubber, and the ozone created from the engine also breaks them down.
i still find it odd that i got these results simply because i did not completely dry my tires after putting 303 on them. i wiped away the tiny little drops that were in between the edges of the tire tread, any that was in the tires lettering, and i even believe i did one quick wipe around the entire tire with a microfiber. but i guess i didnt dry it well enough
after posting that last reply, i spoke with roger from 303 some more on the phone. very very nice man by the way. he shared a ton of info with me on 303 protectant. i dont remember exactly word for word what he said. but this is what i remember.
whatever surface youre coating with 303, make sure that it gets throughly saturated with the product. it really has to be good and wet. and always wipe dry after giving it time to absorb. that is what i believe i did wrong. i applied 303, waited 5 minutes, and removed the excess instead of wiping dry.
i also asked him about the windshield fogging. he said that either 303 is getting sprayed on the windshield, or it is not being wiped dry enough afterwards, and is evaporating onto the windshield. (if that sounds right, i forget his exact words.) he also said traditional products like windex and such wont get 303 off glass, it is best to try and remove it dry.
he also said cv boots should get protected by 303 as well. the heating up and cooling down breaks down the rubber, and the ozone created from the engine also breaks them down.
i still find it odd that i got these results simply because i did not completely dry my tires after putting 303 on them. i wiped away the tiny little drops that were in between the edges of the tire tread, any that was in the tires lettering, and i even believe i did one quick wipe around the entire tire with a microfiber. but i guess i didnt dry it well enough
See this March 17 Detail and Wax topic on this subject, especially the first post:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=33;t=000484
I don't use anything on my tires. Nothing lasts more than a few weeks, some products are actually bad for the tire, and simply washing the tires gets them good enough looking for me. I personally think its a waste of time to put tire dressing on the tires every couple weeks just to have then nice and shiney black.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=33;t=000484
I don't use anything on my tires. Nothing lasts more than a few weeks, some products are actually bad for the tire, and simply washing the tires gets them good enough looking for me. I personally think its a waste of time to put tire dressing on the tires every couple weeks just to have then nice and shiney black.
sxg6,
Try 303 on your tires again, doing what the rep had said (completely drying it after some time). I think you'll notice a world of difference. The protection is supposedly the best you can get. I really like the look it gives, not shiny, but a black, new look. And mine usually stay that way for awhile.
On the dash, I've learned to accept that it will "haze" (aka off-gassing) on my windshield some. A dry microfiber towel made specifically for glass will wipe it right off. My glass microfibers are the Black Magic ones you can get at Walmart. They work wonders on glass. Just be sure you care for them properly in the laundry, and they'll last a long time with excellent service. Mine are atleast 2 years old and are good as new.
Dave
Try 303 on your tires again, doing what the rep had said (completely drying it after some time). I think you'll notice a world of difference. The protection is supposedly the best you can get. I really like the look it gives, not shiny, but a black, new look. And mine usually stay that way for awhile.
On the dash, I've learned to accept that it will "haze" (aka off-gassing) on my windshield some. A dry microfiber towel made specifically for glass will wipe it right off. My glass microfibers are the Black Magic ones you can get at Walmart. They work wonders on glass. Just be sure you care for them properly in the laundry, and they'll last a long time with excellent service. Mine are atleast 2 years old and are good as new.
Dave
I just picked up the 303 stuff. I really like it on the interior. I dont like the high gloss that amror all or the other products do. it puts a nasty glare on my windshield when the sun shines on the dash. the 303 dont but it smells like armor all.
I also picked up some 303 at my local hot tub store. I like it thus far. I didn't notice much odor -- almost seemed like I was spraying water. It has a natural look -- can't tell that it's on. It does seem to repell dust well. At $15, I'm unsure if I'll replace it when it's empty? I also hear that Nano-Protectant will produce similar results.
I just want to retract all the bad things i said about 303 in case someone searches, and finds this thread.
I have now been using 303 on my tires for 2 months and everything is fine.
Over the winter time, i never saw any brake dust on my wheels, at least that i remember. Odd, but i swear thats the way it was.
Come spring when i start to wash my car and dress the tires, i decide to try 303. Once i started using 303, i started to notice all that brake dust on my wheels, which i had never noticed over the winter time. So since i started to notice it as soon as i began using 303, i pointed the finger at 303.
Basically, 303 = great stuff for tires. Produces a nice deep black look with a very very minor shine. The tires look like new no matter how old they are. The only thing is that this stuff easilly washes off when it rains, but i don't mind that because at least this stuff isn't bad for my tires like most of the products on the market.
I still find it odd that my tires lost their deep black look once i started using 303. But I think thats probably just the brake dust clinging to my tires making them look faded.
picture of tire with 303 applied the previous day
I have now been using 303 on my tires for 2 months and everything is fine.
Over the winter time, i never saw any brake dust on my wheels, at least that i remember. Odd, but i swear thats the way it was.
Come spring when i start to wash my car and dress the tires, i decide to try 303. Once i started using 303, i started to notice all that brake dust on my wheels, which i had never noticed over the winter time. So since i started to notice it as soon as i began using 303, i pointed the finger at 303.
Basically, 303 = great stuff for tires. Produces a nice deep black look with a very very minor shine. The tires look like new no matter how old they are. The only thing is that this stuff easilly washes off when it rains, but i don't mind that because at least this stuff isn't bad for my tires like most of the products on the market.
I still find it odd that my tires lost their deep black look once i started using 303. But I think thats probably just the brake dust clinging to my tires making them look faded.
picture of tire with 303 applied the previous day
I'm not sure if this has been brought up yet, but it's critical to clean your tires thoroughly for the full effect. Even something as mild as a scrub-down with car soap will yield better results. With all the grime that comes off the tire, you'll feel guilty about putting 303 on top before cleaning.
I apply 303 to a sponge applicator and wipe the tires down until they look wet then let them dry. I do not wipe it off afterwards and it lasts for weeks without causing any problems at all. I apply the same way to the dash & vinyl but do buff it down with a microfiber towel. I've been doing this for years with different car & tires and it simply works.
I used 'Back to Black' first time on my tires last week and it workd great. Shines but not greasy, and got rid of the brown haze nicely.
Funny thing is that B2B leaves this nasty water strikes on my other plastic trims when I used it 1st time and it's been sitting in my garage for 2 yrs untoched just because I don't know what to do with it.
Funny thing is that B2B leaves this nasty water strikes on my other plastic trims when I used it 1st time and it's been sitting in my garage for 2 yrs untoched just because I don't know what to do with it.
It's been my experience with 303 that it's the best stuff I've ever used on the dash, but I don't like it for tires either. The best stuff I've ever used on my tires is Less Time, More Shine by Stoner's. This stuff looks great, lasts a long time, and it's not silicone based so it doesn't damage the tires.
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