2025 Nissan Leaf S for $22500

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$7500 off if you finance through NMAC . You can combine the $7500 off with their 3.19% too. Is the Leaf with the 149 mile range a terrible EV to own? I ride my motorcycle most days but I live in the PNW, so I need a car for the winter months. I like small hatchbacks and the Leaf would be useful in my daily life.
 
If it fits your use case, it seems like a reasonable vehicle. I would honestly consider one, at a reasonable price, to replace a vehicle in our stable. There is always one vehicle doing commuter duty in our household where the range isn't an issue. The other ICE vehicles can handle any longer distances. Here's the problem in Canada:
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$7500 off if you finance through NMAC . You can combine the $7500 off with their 3.19% too. Is the Leaf with the 149 mile range a terrible EV to own? I ride my motorcycle most days but I live in the PNW, so I need a car for the winter months. I like small hatchbacks and the Leaf would be useful in my daily life.
If the car works for you it's a good deal. As you said would be useful in your daily life.
It seems pretty much (in my mind anyway) Nissan is giving the $7,500 because it doesnt qualify for the USA tax credit of $7,500.
If this is a right car for you, why not?
I rather get the $7,500 from the manufacturer anyway if I could. Win win

I know nothing but the only other wild card I could see is what price the 2025 Chevy Bolt comes out with. Only thing is, we never know if the Bolt will be a 2025 or 2026 by the time they get it produced, nor do we know the price except maybe it will quality for the $7,500 taxpayer gift..
 
$7500 off if you finance through NMAC . You can combine the $7500 off with their 3.19% too. Is the Leaf with the 149 mile range a terrible EV to own? I ride my motorcycle most days but I live in the PNW, so I need a car for the winter months. I like small hatchbacks and the Leaf would be useful in my daily life.
As another option, used Teslas will continue to come down in price because there is a RWD Long Range that gets the tax credit.

MSRP $42,500 - $7,500 = $35,000. This price for the refreshed Model 3 with EPA range of 363 miles puts a lot of price pressure on used Model 3s. And the new car is a much better car. That range is verrrrrrry attractive.

Good luck.
 
If you want new - sounds reasonable. I do like that Nissan is matching the $7500. I wonder what there actual costs on these are? These still assembled in TN?

Used model 3 for a lot less sounds better to me - depends on what you want?
 
They are nice looking cars, subjective, and that's a good starting point. Here's what a local dealer has at the moment.

MSRP

$30,035

Dealer Discount

$1,576

NMAC Special APR Only Cash

$7,500

Nissan EV Customer Bonus Cash

$1,000

Mossy Nissan Price

$19,959

Then plus TTL and whatever other BS they can add in.
 
Winter range takes a hit from running cabin heat on all pure EV's.

Some have a heatpump so the range reduction is not as much.

Some provide marginal cabin heat and try to make up for that with heated seats and steering wheel.

Just be aware that even when new they do not provide that stated range in winter.
 
Winter range takes a hit from running cabin heat on all pure EV's.

Some have a heatpump so the range reduction is not as much.

Some provide marginal cabin heat and try to make up for that with heated seats and steering wheel.

Just be aware that even when new they do not provide that stated range in winter.
Off the top of my head I think the newer Leafs (Leaves?) have heat pumps. Bolt does not although we'll see if the upcoming Ultium Bolt (Boltium?) will. I suspect it will as they use heat pumps in all other Ultium EVs and the whole point of redoing the Bolt in Ultium is to share platform costs and components.
 
A 149 mile range seems very limiting. If the Leaf recommends only charging to 80% and you don't want to go below 10% like many of us, that gives a theoretical day to day usable range of 70% of 149, or 104 miles. Then take off a bit because you mostly don't get anywhere near the theoretical range. Then take off a bit for loss of range as the battery ages. Then take off a bit more for cold or hot weather or rain.

You'd be lucky to get 75 actual day to day usable miles. Don't ever forget to plug it in.

Any used Tesla will run circles around that Leaf, for range at least.

The Leaf is probably a fine car (my daughter owns one) as long as you only use it for local grocery getting or a very short commute. My daughter lives 3 or 4 miles from the grocery store and about 10 miles from work. The Leaf works for her. But she's also arrived at our house with essentially no charge.
 
Off the top of my head I think the newer Leafs (Leaves?) have heat pumps. Bolt does not although we'll see if the upcoming Ultium Bolt (Boltium?) will. I suspect it will as they use heat pumps in all other Ultium EVs and the whole point of redoing the Bolt in Ultium is to share platform costs and components.
If properly designed, heatpump cabin heat will have resistive heat for days when ambient temperature is too cold for the heatpump, and on rare days when conditions ice up the evaporator. So, the range reduction on winter days probably is a variable.
 
I'd want to know what the real range of these EV's are. Especially driving at night, heat and headlights on, and a/c and headlights on.
 
The Leaf has the worst battery life of all EVs. It would probably do alright for 10 years though.
 
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