2025 Lexus TX500h Oil Selection

[GRjdm]

This is the turbo variant? I would just go with a 30 grade oil.

Once my standard warranty is over, I plan to switch from 0W-20 to 0W-30 or 5W-30 since I live in warm area that doesn't snow.

But OP has extended warranty from Lexus, so deviating from 0W-20 spec'ed for US Market may cause issue down the line if there is engine-related warranty repair.

 

[tired]

Once my standard warranty is over, I plan to switch from 0W-20 to 0W-30 or 5W-30 since I live in warm area that doesn't snow.

But OP has extended warranty from Lexus, so deviating from 0W-20 spec'ed for US Market may cause issue down the line if there is engine-related warranty repair.

No one has been able to point to a case of this, to my knowledge.

 

[The Critic]

No one has been able to point to a case of this, to my knowledge.

Extended warranty is governed by a different setup of rules than a warranty; it's considered a service contract. Lexus states receipts are required.

 

[tired]

Extended warranty is governed by a different setup of rules than a warranty; it's considered a service contract. Lexus states receipts are required.
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Again I understand all of that. I just have never heard of anyone getting a warranty denied because they used 5W-30. Can you point to any cases?

 

[spasm3]

Have them do the oil change for documentation, then come home and dump it for 5w30 HPL no VII.
Use the cleanly collected oil in an older car.

 

[The Critic]

Again I understand all of that. I just have never of anyone getting a warranty denied because they used 5W-30. Can you point to any cases?

I don't have any Toyota/Lexus specific examples, but here's an example of BMW pushing back on warranty coverage for this engine since a LL-01 Castrol 5W-30 syn was used instead of the appropriate LL-04 or LL-17FE approved oil.

 

[tired]

I don't have any Toyota/Lexus specific examples, but here's an example of BMW pushing back on warranty coverage for this engine since a LL-01 Castrol 5W-30 syn was used instead of the appropriate LL-04 or LL-17FE approved oil.

That's a different story though. He didn't use an approved oil. I'm more referring to still using an approved oil (API for Toyota) but in a different viscosity.

If it were me, I'm not saying I wouldn't be careful, too. However I'd just go to Walmart and buy any 0W-20 and then immediately return it and keep the receipt. Then buy 5W-30.

That really sucks for the guy in that thread.

 

[trd1zz]

However I'd just go to Walmart and buy any 0W-20 and then immediately return it and keep the receipt. Then buy 5W-30.

So, you'd resort to committing fraud is what you are saying?

 

[tired]

So, you'd resort to committing fraud is what you are saying?

Who is the victim in this hypothetical fraud scenario?

 

[Glenda W.]

So, you'd resort to committing fraud is what you are saying?

I know it stinks but unfortunately dishonest dealers claiming a different grade caused engine damage is worse. Luckily most arbitrators know the dealer “games” when attempting to deny warranty and rarely side with them.(factory warranty)

Now extended warranty’s and aftermarket warranty’s do not have the same consumer protections as they’re a type of insurance.

 

[trd1zz]

Who is the victim in this hypothetical fraud scenario?

The party requesting the receipts for parts used in the maintenance of the vehicle per factory recommendations?

I know it stinks but unfortunately dishonest dealers claiming a different grade caused engine damage is worse. Luckily most arbitrators know the dealer “games” when attempting to deny warranty.

Is it the dealer trying to deny the warranty or is it the manufacturer? The manufacturer is the one who warranties the car. The dealer service dept. is paid by the manufacturer for warranty work.

 

[tired]

The party requesting the receipts for parts used in the maintenance of the vehicle per factory recommendations?



Is it the dealer trying to deny the warranty or is it the manufacturer? The manufacturer is the one who warranties the car. The dealer service dept. is paid by the manufacturer for warranty work.

You simping for a multi-billion dollar auto manufacturer when we know that an oil grade doesn't cause engine failure? You cheering them on when they shaft the little guy? C'mon man. It's just a game to try to screw people out of getting warranty work paid for. Sometimes you just gotta play the game. There is no reason 5W-30 would cause any engine failure vs 0W-20. Just gives better engine protection. They wanna play games; you gotta play the game too.

 

[Glenda W.]

Is it the dealer trying to deny the warranty or is it the manufacturer? The manufacturer is the one who warranties the car. The dealer service dept. is paid by the manufacturer for warranty work.

Technically it is the manufacturer but the dealer starts the process. When I worked at the dealer the regional warranty rep, tech, and service manager were present at arbitration. In my career I was part of 2 arbitration hearings representing the dealer as the tech(not unlike a professional witness). We lost both cases that were obvious customer abuse.

As a consumer I’d bring all my receipts and pictures of engine internals to arbitration. These guys aren’t stupid. Unfortunately most people don’t read the warranty booklet and don’t realize they have the right to arbitration. No lawyers, no engineers, no cost.

 

[trd1zz]

You simping for a multi-billion dollar auto manufacturer when we know that an oil grade doesn't cause engine failure? You cheering them on when they shaft the little guy? C'mon man. It's just a game to try to screw people out of getting warranty work paid for. Sometimes you just gotta play the game. There is no reason 5W-30 would cause any engine failure vs 0W-20. Just gives better engine protection. They wanna play games; you gotta play the game too.

Nah, all my cars are looooong past the warranty period.

I'm not familiar with whether a warranty dispute could or would go to civil court, arbitration, or whatever. But if it did, I would want to tell the truth in those proceedings and definitely not run any risk of a fraud allegation against me. But, you do you.

 

[PandaBear]

What you have receipt for and what you put into the crankcase can be different, just saying.

 

[tired]

What you have receipt for and what you put into the crankcase can be different, just saying.

Yes, that's my point.

 

[tired]

Nah, all my cars are looooong past the warranty period.

I'm not familiar with whether a warranty dispute could or would go to civil court, arbitration, or whatever. But if it did, I would want to tell the truth in those proceedings and definitely not run any risk of a fraud allegation against me. But, you do you.

Mine are too.

I think if you have receipts showing on time oil changes, there's no chance it's going to court.

 

[Glenda W.]

Oil related engine failures are beyond rare. It’s almost always neglect or a known manufacturing problem. Quaker State recall in 1981 were the only ones I’ve seen in my lifetime. Quaker State replaced the engines.