2024 GMC Sierra EV - Revealed

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Nothing too unexpected. A fancy Silverado EV with some Hummer tech.

Prices range from $50,000 - $110,000

Elevation, AT4 and Denali model.

Starting with the fully-loaded “Denali Edition 1”: Dual motor, 754 HP, 785 lb-ft, 400 miles range, 350kw charging. 9,500 lbs max towing, Super Cruise while towing, 4 wheel steering, air suspension.

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What's important to note is the 400 mile range. That's more distance than a lot of bladders can go-based on what I think the (average) demographics are on this board. So-the goal post will probably be moved by some with the comments stating I won't buy one until I can go 600 miles. Yea...sure.

GM did a nice job-now just trickle the features, range, etc, down to more affordable products.
 
CKN said:
What's important to note is the 400 mile range. That's more distance than a lot of bladders can go-based on what I think the (average) demographics are on this board. So-the goal post will probably be moved by some with the comments stating I won't buy one until I can go 600 miles. Yea...sure.

GM did a nice job-now just trickle the features, range, etc, down to more affordable products.
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From a range and charging standpoint I think it will be more viable a vehicle and platform that what we've seen from the lightning.

Im skeptical about ultiums life and degradation under a large amount of 250-350KW fast charge cycling.

Prob another 100K truck lol.....
 
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Nonsense on the 400 mile range. Highway range will be in the mid 200 mile range with a full charge, and in the 180 mile range with a 20% to 80% charge typical of EV's. Sorry, but it takes real power to move a big and heavy 8000 pound vehicle.

Ford's "big battery" Lightning went 270 miles at 70mph in perfect conditions, full charge to zero. Take 60% of that, (the typical time-tolerable charge) and you get a very realistic 162 mile highway range at 70 mph. Or less than 150 miles at 80.

GM may be putting in a bigger 200KWh battery, but the results will be similarly dismal.

Oh, and the big battery version starts at $107,000.


NOTE: Modern range tests are driven in loops at a peak speed of 70. Generally 4 or 5 exits up the highway and back. This is extremely beneficial to range numbers for obvious regen and slow speed reasons. This helps negate the the effects of headwinds and hills. Things that EV truck drivers must be acutely aware of. Average speed is more like 60.


Note 2: F150 2.7EB 4x4 will go 665 miles per tank at 80+ mph.
 
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Cujet said:
Nonsense on the 400 mile range. Highway range will be in the mid 200 mile range with a full charge, and in the 180 mile range with a 20% to 80% charge typical of EV's. Sorry, but it takes real power to move a big and heavy 8000 pound vehicle.

Ford's "big battery" Lightning went 270 miles at 70mph in perfect conditions, full charge to zero. Take 60% of that, (the typical time-tolerable charge) and you get a very realistic 162 mile highway range at 70 mph. Or less than 150 miles at 80.

GM may be putting in a bigger 200KWh battery, but the results will be similarly dismal.

Oh, and the big battery version starts at $107,000.


NOTE: Modern range tests are driven in loops at a peak speed of 70. Generally 4 or 5 exits up the highway and back. This is extremely beneficial to range numbers for obvious regen and slow speed reasons. This helps negate the the effects of headwinds and hills. Things that EV truck drivers must be acutely aware of. Average speed is more like 60.


Note 2: F150 2.7EB 4x4 will go 665 miles per tank at 80+ mph.
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InsideEVs got 343 miles at 70 MPH from the Hummer on 35” MT tires and terrible aero.

So your hypothesis is that a lighter, more aerodynamic Silverado/Sierra EV with highway/all season tires and the same battery pack and 2 motors vs. 3 will get much worse range?
 
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InsideEVs got 343 miles at 70 MPH from the Hummer on 35” MT tires and terrible aero.

So your hypothesis is that a lighter, more aerodynamic Silverado/Sierra EV with highway/all season tires and the same battery pack and 2 motors vs. 3 will get much worse range?
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Yes. Real world conditions tend to hit range claims hard. Again, 70mph loop tests are not accurate, with real world average speeds of 60mph or even less! Including multiple periods of regen. Furthermore the Hummer has an even bigger battery than this does, at 213 usable KWh, or about 230 total KWh.

All of this does highlight my point from a few years ago. A 200KWh battery size is an absolute minimum for a full size pickup truck. And when that battery is 2x (or more) the size of a Model S battery, it takes a lot more time to charge on today's commonly available chargers. Putting 120KWh into a battery at a charge stop (20% to 80%) is a time consuming affair.

Also, pickup trucks do no better than 2 miles per KWh at a right lane hogging 70mph in typical conditions, only 1.5 miles per KWh at typical 80mph highway speeds. Towing 0.8 miles per KWh.
 
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Uglier than the Cybertruk; that's saying something!
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Jeff-there is nothing on the road uglier than a cyber truck. That thing looks like a door stop with 4 wheels attached. I will make a prediction. The cyber truck will never sell ANY WHERE CLOSE to the Ford and GM electric pickup offerings. IT will be a tiny fraction.


As it is-it's already late to the party.
 
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Cujet said:
Nonsense on the 400 mile range. Highway range will be in the mid 200 mile range with a full charge, and in the 180 mile range with a 20% to 80% charge typical of EV's. Sorry, but it takes real power to move a big and heavy 8000 pound vehicle.

Ford's "big battery" Lightning went 270 miles at 70mph in perfect conditions, full charge to zero. Take 60% of that, (the typical time-tolerable charge) and you get a very realistic 162 mile highway range at 70 mph. Or less than 150 miles at 80.

GM may be putting in a bigger 200KWh battery, but the results will be similarly dismal.

Oh, and the big battery version starts at $107,000.


NOTE: Modern range tests are driven in loops at a peak speed of 70. Generally 4 or 5 exits up the highway and back. This is extremely beneficial to range numbers for obvious regen and slow speed reasons. This helps negate the the effects of headwinds and hills. Things that EV truck drivers must be acutely aware of. Average speed is more like 60.


Note 2: F150 2.7EB 4x4 will go 665 miles per tank at 80+ mph.
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Did you read an alternate press release the rest of us missed?
 
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Jeff-there is nothing on the road uglier than a cyber truck. That thing looks like a door stop with 4 wheels attached. I will make a prediction. The cyber truck will never sell ANY WHERE CLOSE to the Ford and GM electric pickup offerings. IT will be a tiny fraction.


As it is-it's already late to the party.
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Tesla has 3M pre-orders. You know you want one.
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JeffKeryk said:
Uglier than the Cybertruk; that's saying something!
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Cant call something ugly if it does not exist lol.

The OEMs seem to be doing it right on their design language, they are not rocking the boat. The transition should be much simpler for their current user base. The cybertruck and the rivian will not capture that market, but instead capture those who need lifestyle vehicles that are edgy and mean more then just owning a truck; its a statement of their individuality that they stand for something bigger then the rest of the owners of big brawy trucks.

Tesla drivers are majority male and their most common jobs are engineer and manager of operations, a new study found.
Most Tesla drivers were 34-years-old or younger and lived in areas with median household incomes that averaged $85,000.
An insurance company surveyed 62,000 drivers, including 228 with Teslas, to compare.
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Jeff- I was in professional sales my entire career. My very wise boss once said- " an order isn't an order until it's paid for".
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Well said. I worked on Sarbanes-Oxley revenue recognition. Capital equipment sales are not revenue until formal customer acceptance.
Any payments are deferred revenue (a liability account on the balance sheet) until accpetance, depending on corporate guidelines.
 
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Did you read an alternate press release the rest of us missed?
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1.5 miles per KWh in real world high speed, highway use. The only way to get 2 miles per KWh is to go slow. But with speed limits at 75 and even 80mph in places, and even one stretch of 85mph, and common speeds around 80 on most interstates, the real world has a way of eating up battery power.
 
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