2019 F150 5.0 - Another Truck Rental Review

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Had a 2018 F-150 with 5.0 and 10 speed, 3.55 gears. Not a fan of the engine or transmission calibration (supposedly the software is better now). Had several problems with the Coyote, including it drinking oil until a PCM update two years into ownership. Now I am in a RAM, build quality much better and the powertrain is better IMO.

Does the F-150 and Mustang have the same horsepower or is F-150 detuned ?
 

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Had a 2018 F-150 with 5.0 and 10 speed, 3.55 gears. Not a fan of the engine or transmission calibration (supposedly the software is better now).

This did have a few hiccups where it got "stuck" in 3rd gear with the torque converter locked. From almost a dead stop. Took a second to figure itself out, then shifted harsh and quickly into 1st gear and barked the tires even with a trailer! It seemed to only happen when I coasted to a nearstop on a steep hill. I think because the truck slowed down quicker than the computer was expecting without any brake usage.
 
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I miss traveling a little because I got to drive all the different trucks. I always rented through National so I could pick what I wanted to drive. I had driven 4-5 rams including two 2019+ trucks. One of those 2019's was a Rebel. I drove one Silverado 5.3L and a 2.7L Ecoboost F150 with the 10 speed.

The 3.31's feel ok in the truck because the 10 speed's first gear is so short. Even with 3.31's you have the same overall gear reduction as the old 6 speed with 3.73's.

I think the 5.0 with the 10-speed is the perfect combination, honestly. The EcoBoost has such a wide flat torque curve it really doesn't benefit from having all those gears. The V8, however, is perfectly paired with it.

I really enjoy how snappy the shifts in the 10 speed feel. No idea how it holds up long term but it has to be the best truck transmission out there right now.
Agree. The 10 speed was not as big of a deal for the 3.5L. It helped, but it was not a game changer. I think the 10 speed benefits diesels and the NA V8's the most.
Had a 2018 F-150 with 5.0 and 10 speed, 3.55 gears. Not a fan of the engine or transmission calibration (supposedly the software is better now). Had several problems with the Coyote, including it drinking oil until a PCM update two years into ownership. Now I am in a RAM, build quality much better and the powertrain is better IMO.
The Hemi/8 speed is a great combo and always seems to be in the right gear. I have had a bunch as rentals and was always really pleased. And the rams ride so much better than an F150 I have driven. The F150's stock shock tuning is abysmal. Even a set of $350 Bilsteins is a massive improvement.
 
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No way! The 5.0 in the F150 I had was like a rocketship empty! Granted , the 2wd single cab aluminum F150 is pretty light. An extra 60 horses in a Mustang would be a lot of fun!
Supposedly the 2018+ 5.0 is identical between the Mustang and F150 in terms of the physical parts. In the past the manifolds and cams were different.

The difference is in the tuning. The Mustang 5.0 is allowed to rev to 7500 rpm I believe where the F150 is capped at 6000 rpm? The Mustang makes its peak power at 7000 rpm above where the F150 is even allowed to rev. An aftermarket tune will open the F150 up to mustang power levels and more.
 
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The Hemi/8 speed is a great combo and always seems to be in the right gear. I have had a bunch as rentals and was always really pleased. And the rams ride so much better than an F150 I have driven.
Agreed. The 1/2 ton Ram is an excellent sedan with a box. Great ride quality, solid NA motor/trans combo. I own one.

But they are not very fuel efficient, especially during towing. There are also a lot of complaints about how poorly they perform as a tow vehicle - both from a power and from a chassis standpoint.

If I was doing any >5K lb towing or "real truck duties," the F250 7.3 gas trucks are the only realistic option IMO.
 
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Agreed. The 1/2 ton Ram is an excellent sedan with a box. Great ride quality, solid NA motor/trans combo. I own one.

But they are not very fuel efficient, especially during towing. There are also a lot of complaints about how poorly they perform as a tow vehicle - both from a power and from a chassis standpoint.

If I was doing any >5K lb towing or "real truck duties," the F250 7.3 gas trucks are the only realistic option IMO.
My F150 tows a 5500 lb travel trailer and chassis and power wise its very solid, but the cooling system is not up to the task. I have to be really careful pulling grades here in Utah once it gets up above 80*F outside.

The 7.3L though, is a sweet motor. If truck prices ever come back down to earth I will look into one. My Mother-in-law bought an E450 Class C motorhome in the fall with the 7.3L(detuned chassis cab version with "only" 350hp and 6 speed transmission) and it was a beast. I had the cruise control set to 75mph in Wyoming and it just chugged along with almost zero drama. i bet its amazing with the 10 speed and 430hp in the Superduty.
 
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My F150 tows a 5500 lb travel trailer and chassis and power wise its very solid, but the cooling system is not up to the task. I have to be really careful pulling grades here in Utah once it gets up above 80*F outside.

The 7.3L though, is a sweet motor. If truck prices ever come back down to earth I will look into one. My Mother-in-law bought an E450 Class C motorhome in the fall with the 7.3L(detuned chassis cab version with "only" 350hp and 6 speed transmission) and it was a beast. I had the cruise control set to 75mph in Wyoming and it just chugged along with almost zero drama. i bet its amazing with the 10 speed and 430hp in the Superduty.
Something like this would be a great tow vehicle:

It would be even better if it had the 4.30's, but I'm sure it is good enough even with the 3.55's. Low $50K for a rig like this buys you a lot more capability than the heavily-optioned 1/2 tons that I see people towing with.
 
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