2012 Civic Oil Debate....

[CTownIntegra]

I purchased a 2012 Civic LX for the wife a few months ago. The Maintenance Minder still shows 40% oil life at 6500 miles, but I already have an oil change on hand for it. (4qts Mobil 1 0w20)

However I took advantage of the Quaker State Ultimate Durability $20 rebate for my mom's car and thought about doing so for this one. While picking up another FAR jug of G-Oil I looked for the Quaker State Ultimate Durability in 0w20 and it is not carried here. The only thing I can find in 0w20 here in Louisiana is Mobil 1.

Long story short, I am debating returning the M1 in favor for a couple of jugs of Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w20. Especially since we rarely see below freezing temps and the R18 engine was previously spec'd for 5w20 until 2012.

Worth exchanging the M1 for Quaker State Ultimate Durability to save $20 and gain an extra quart of oil?

I debated running some of the G-Oil I have stocked up on but will continue to use that in family/friends cars for their changes that spec 5w30.

 

[tig1]

If your engine calls for a 20wt. oil then the Mobil 1 0w20 is a better oil.IMHO

 

[troyh]

I have issues with those OLM's. I have a 2011 Mustang and seems the OLM is always calculating a 10K oil change (even using conventional). If I drive easy, or drive hard seems I do the math I get 9-10K. The engineer may know way more than me, but I have a problem going 9-10K on conventional oil and that long on a filter bothers me as well.

Mine calls for 5W-20, but recently began using Amsoil 0W-30. Haven't had a catastrophic failure as many predicted.

Not giving advice though as I am not a petroleum engineer.

 

[Oregoonian]

Originally Posted By: tig1
If your engine calls for a 20wt. oil then the Mobil 1 0w20 is a better oil.IMHO


+1 Agree.....suggest you get a jug ofQuaker State Ultimate Durability (since its almost free after rebate).....use it for your next oil change....and then transition to Mobil 1 0w20 after the Quaker State Ultimate Durability.

Using Mobil 1 0w20....you should be able to do an OCI of 8000 to 10,000-....if your driving habits are not severe. WithQuaker State Ultimate Durability....I would not do more than 7000.

Also, get a good mid-tier filter....such as Purolator PureOne, WIX or Napa Gold.

 

[Artem]

Keep the M1 and get the other jugs you want for the next oil change. By the time the rebate comes in and it's time for another oil change, you'll have a free jug waiting for you

 

[CATERHAM]

The 0W-20 oil that's spec'd for your Honda is light, lighter than Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0W-20 and lighter than Mobil 1 0W-20.
And 0W in this case really has nothing to do with extreme cold temp's but rather cold starts even at 80F. The advantage of the Honda 0W-20 is that it has a high viscosity index.

In future I'd check out the price of the Honda/Acura 0W-20 from your dealer and other Japanese OEM 0W-20 oils from Toyota, Mazda and Mitsubishi and see if you can get one for a reasonable price. My favorite is the Toyota version made by Mobil.
All these OEM 0W-20 oils are better suited for your Honda than any 5W-20 and even 0W-20 you'll find at Walmart or other auto part stores.

 

[Ayrton]

I have a psychological thing about sticking with Mobil 1 from the start in a new car.

In my old cars, I use anything! ha.

 

[vinu_neuro]

You're in LA. Run ANY 20wt with sensible oci's.

 

[dparm]

The Honda-branded 0w20 would work fine.

 

[Dave Hess]

Any 5w20 will do fine. Civics are very easy on oil.

 

[CATERHAM]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Any 5w20 will do fine. Civics are very easy on oil.

Good point. I mean someone has got to use the stuff, the rest of the world won't touch it.

 

[The Critic]

My friend's 2012 also showed 40% left on the Maint Minder when I did the A1 service at about 6200 miles. I used Toyota 0w20 and a genuine Honda filter.

 

[CTownIntegra]

Originally Posted By: The Critic
My friend's 2012 also showed 40% left on the Maint Minder when I did the A1 service at about 6200 miles. I used Toyota 0w20 and a genuine Honda filter.


I think I may just go ahead with the Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy I have and do a change tomorrow. I have it and a stash of PureOne filters I use for both cars. I can always use the other oil in my '99 Civic with 200K+ on it.

 

[45ACP]

Honda or Toyota 0W-20, Supertech 5W-20, Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20, AMSOIL 0W-20, one quart of each, 5 quarts of one, whatever you want, put it in there. 0W or 5W-20.

 

[quickfingerz]

As far as viscosity is concerned, Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w-20 = Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20

Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0w-20 is thinner than both

 

[CATERHAM]

Originally Posted By: quickfingerz
As far as viscosity is concerned, Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w-20 = Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20

Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0w-20 is thinner than both


The KV100 spec's cannot be relied upon to accurately compare the operational viscosities of different oils.
We don't know what the HTHSV is of Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W-20 but it is likely 2.6cP. Mobil 1 0W-20 has a HTHSV of 2.7cP. From that I'd conclude that Mobil 1 will be heavier at hot operating temp's but lighter at temp's below 100C due to it's higher 173 VI.

I do agree that Quaker State Ultimate Durability with it's 175 VI is lighter than both but not Mobil 1 at extremely cold temp's.