2010 ScionXD 188k mi; Valvoline 15w-40 15k mi

[Stumpy]

Tried the Valvoline SynBlend Premium "Blue" HDEO. It was golden brown so maybe they used to dye it blue! As expected, for a synblend HDEO it's results landed where the Delvac 1300 15w-40 Synblend and Delo 15w-40 Conventional did. No surprises. Presently have STP/Amalie 5w-40 HDEO in the crank case and will run it 15K-20K depending on the time. I don't commute as much and so my miles traveled a month dropped from 2500 to around 1500 so it is taking me sometime longer to rack up the 15K to 20K miles needed. I wish I had a borescope but from what i can see through the oil filler hole, the top end is spotless with zero varnish. The dipstick is varnish free as well.

 

[JavierH19]

Good looking report, love 15w-40. Scored 12 quarts of full syn delo xsp for $33 on a label error a few days ago. That's $2.8 a quart and the cheapest full syn oil i've ever bought, I've bought conventional on sale for $1.99 before. The 10 quart jugs of mag 1 hdeo lowes sells are a very close second since those 10q jugs are 28-30 each regular price with free shipping.

 

[We're Metals]

5-7 ppm of iron after 15,000 miles...... Unreal.

The "Using diesel engine oil in a gas car is bad" better see these UOAs

 

[Stumpy]

5-7 ppm of iron after 15,000 miles...... Unreal.

The "Using diesel engine oil in a gas car is bad" better see these UOAs

Yeah, everything I use is SM, SN or SP rated.

 

[GR_CoB]

Just posted this elsewhere, but this seems like a perfect spot for reference.

Post in thread 'Thread for photos that 100% do not violate any Terms Of Service, not political, not too lewd, no gas price pics etc.'

Jun 24, 2025

If I had to pick one oil to use across the fleet - this would be it. Best deal these days, and great oil. I'd probably stick with Full Synthetic, for occasional cold starts, and peace of mind more than anything. API CK-4/SN, and temp range well within my area: Cold flow down to -20°C (-4°F). While breakdown resistance for conventional 15W-40 is around 250°F (121°C), while full synthetic should be ok up to 300°F (149°C).

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[Oliveoil2]

Good results but remember the extra zinc and phosphorus in diesel oil wreak havoc on ice engine emissions systems, especially the Cat.

 

[Stumpy]

Good results but remember the extra zinc and phosphorus in diesel oil wreak havoc on ice engine emissions systems, especially the Cat.

What extra zinc and phosphorus? It meets or exceeds SP API specs. So API SP, SN or SM Plus rated HDEO's are emission killers uh? Seems they wouldn't earn the latest gas engine spec if they did.

 

[53' Stude]

Good results but remember the extra zinc and phosphorus in diesel oil wreak havoc on ice engine emissions systems, especially the Cat.

Totally false. Especially since oil is SP. they aren’t good if your car burns a lot of oil.

 

[53' Stude]

Tried the Valvoline SynBlend Premium "Blue" HDEO. It was golden brown so maybe they used to dye it blue! As expected, for a synblend HDEO it's results landed where the Delvac 1300 15w-40 Synblend and Delo 15w-40 Conventional did. No surprises. Presently have STP/Amalie 5w-40 HDEO in the crank case and will run it 15K-20K depending on the time. I don't commute as much and so my miles traveled a month dropped from 2500 to around 1500 so it is taking me sometime longer to rack up the 15K to 20K miles needed. I wish I had a borescope but from what i can see through the oil filler hole, the top end is spotless with zero varnish. The dipstick is varnish free as well.

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Great report sir. Thank You for sharing

 

[Stumpy]

Totally false. Especially since oil is SP. they aren’t good if your car burns a lot of oil.

Yeah. that was true for HDEO's 20 or more years ago. Not today.

 

[Oliveoil2]

Totally false. Especially since oil is SP. they aren’t good if your car burns a lot of oil.

Agree to disagree. Thanks for your response

 

[XB_Fan]

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[XB_Fan]

I have a 2012 XD and the car is great.

It has 98,000 on it so I decided to change the PCV which is buried under the intake manifold. That was fun.

While I was in there I snapped a pic of how clean the valves are.

The lighting in there was bad for my camera, but there was nearly no carbon on the these.

Oil has been mostly Valvoline High Mileage EP 0w20.

No oil use.

 

[Hohn]

Good results but remember the extra zinc and phosphorus in diesel oil wreak havoc on ice engine emissions systems, especially the Cat.

CK4 diesel oils are <1% SAPS, which is lower than VW 502/505 Euro oils.

 

[53' Stude]

Agree to disagree. Thanks for your response

You can’t live in the past forever. Prove to me why it’s bad if it’s Sn, SN+ and or SP rated. Oh yeah: you can’t!!!

 

[Hohn]

You can’t live in the past forever. Prove to me why it’s bad if it’s Sn, SN+ and or SP rated. Oh yeah: you can’t!!!

It's like he's saying: who are you going to believe, me or your lying UOA?

 

[GR_CoB]

Good results but remember the extra zinc and phosphorus in diesel oil wreak havoc on ice engine emissions systems, especially the Cat.

If an engine is an oil burner, then the catalytic converters will get destroyed regardless of what oil is in the crankcase.
But if the engine does not burn a measurable amount of oil, then it also doesn't matter what is in the crankcase, because how else would the additives make their way into the catalytic converter?
So it's not a matter of "extra zinc and phosphorus in diesel oil", but a matter of oil consumption.

 

[Hohn]

What extra zinc and phosphorus? It meets or exceeds SP API specs. So API SP, SN or SM Plus rated HDEO's are emission killers uh? Seems they wouldn't earn the latest gas engine spec if they did.

Exactly correct.

Here's the PDS for Valvoline's SP-rated Premium Blue One Solution Gen 2: Note the Phosphorus is at the 800ppm limit for SP, right where most gasoline oils are.

But even with an API SN or SN plus oil isn't crazy high. Here's the Valvoline Heavy Duty Synthetic Blend 15w40 in API SN:

These are not the old CH-4 or CI-4 only oils that met API SH and had a whopping 1.6% SAPS.

CHeck out this VOA from 2004, note the main difference is a huge cut in Calcium levels. Phosphorus and zinc are higher, but not hugely so.

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Thread 'Virgin Mopar 15w-40 API SL/CI-4'

May 17, 2004

Test was done by Blackstone Labs
Aluminum 1ppm
Chromium 0ppm
Iron 1ppm
Lead 0ppm
Tin 0ppm
Molybdenum 0ppm
Nickle 0ppm
Manganese 0ppm
Silver 0ppm
Titanium 0ppm
Potassium 0ppm
Boron 0ppm
Silicon 5ppm
Sodium 1ppm
Calcium 2010ppm
Magnesium 236ppm
Phosphorus 923ppm
Zinc 1034ppm
Barium 0ppm
SUS Viscosity@210F 76.9
Flashpoint 425F
Water 0%
Insolubles 0.0
It is interesting how different this oil is from valvoline's premium blue for cummins engines. I posted it before I just thought because dodge runs the cummins that the oil would be similiar in additive content.

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[Stumpy]

I have a 2012 XD and the car is great.

It has 98,000 on it so I decided to change the PCV which is buried under the intake manifold. That was fun.

While I was in there I snapped a pic of how clean the valves are.

The lighting in there was bad for my camera, but there was nearly no carbon on the these.

Oil has been mostly Valvoline High Mileage EP 0w20.

No oil use.
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Mine uses very little, especially over 15K-20K runs. So glad its a port injected engine.

 

[Stumpy]

If an engine is an oil burner, then the catalytic converters will get destroyed regardless of what oil is in the crankcase.
But if the engine does not burn a measurable amount of oil, then it also doesn't matter what is in the crankcase, because how else would the additives make their way into the catalytic converter?
So it's not a matter of "extra zinc and phosphorus in diesel oil", but a matter of oil consumption.

I just sold a 240K mile Mazda CX-5 that was fed nothing but 15w-40 HDEO after I discovered it burned too much 5w-20(not a lot compared to what the car makers say today is "normal"!). When it was sold the cats were fine. Ironically, the only car I've ever had to replace cats on was a Lexus that had been fed conventional oils.