Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: CKN
Nate 1979-one could certainly try to prove they were safe over payload ratings-BUT IT WOULD BE A FORMIDABLE TASK.
IMHO-the OP is overloaded.
Going from an F250 to his potential Tahoe-is like going from a Cadillac to a Hyundai Accent.
Two totally different animals-one not suited to the task at hand.
As far as NOT being a ticketable offense-is this for Oregon?
This has been discussed at length on rv.net and no one has been able to point to laws or cases where people were ticketed for over the payload (anywhere in the US). Many persons had asked to LEOs, even some LEOs have posted directly that axle ratings and tire ratings are what the DOT road/bridge laws care about. This is assuming you are licensed to tow the weight you are towing.
What I disagree with as the other poster had mentioned is that people come on message boards screaming about payload without anything to back it up. Most of them have no clue. I wasn't saying in this case whether the poster was safe or not. What I'm saying is that payload is part of the equation but not a black or white area. Axle and tire ratings are much more important.
In this case it is a loaded 5500lb trailer. He very well could be well within all the ratings (7-800 tongue weight), but I would check axle and tire rating first, hitch rating second, and then see how it tows. The 5500lb is well..... within the rating of the truck. If within the rating of axle, tires, and hitch I would try it out.
I've heard those 4-speeds can be kind of weak so you may expect to rebuild it after towing heavy but they can be rebuilt stronger as they are so well known.
He will have 4 children in the car and his wife. He will have all the kids/wife stuff. Do you believe he will be at PAYLOAD-or even slightly over? Payload is what the manufacturer recommends the vehicle can handle. What's so difficult to understand? There is a chance you will be sued for exceeding payload. Then you can take your argument to a jury. Explain how all the components work and how then you can ignore what the manufacturer recommends. It will be interesting-but chances are you will settle out of court. BTW-unless you have ever been to court, you really don't understand how this process works.
I think this horse has now been buried and I'm not digging it up again.
Originally Posted By: CKN
Nate 1979-one could certainly try to prove they were safe over payload ratings-BUT IT WOULD BE A FORMIDABLE TASK.
IMHO-the OP is overloaded.
Going from an F250 to his potential Tahoe-is like going from a Cadillac to a Hyundai Accent.
Two totally different animals-one not suited to the task at hand.
As far as NOT being a ticketable offense-is this for Oregon?
This has been discussed at length on rv.net and no one has been able to point to laws or cases where people were ticketed for over the payload (anywhere in the US). Many persons had asked to LEOs, even some LEOs have posted directly that axle ratings and tire ratings are what the DOT road/bridge laws care about. This is assuming you are licensed to tow the weight you are towing.
What I disagree with as the other poster had mentioned is that people come on message boards screaming about payload without anything to back it up. Most of them have no clue. I wasn't saying in this case whether the poster was safe or not. What I'm saying is that payload is part of the equation but not a black or white area. Axle and tire ratings are much more important.
In this case it is a loaded 5500lb trailer. He very well could be well within all the ratings (7-800 tongue weight), but I would check axle and tire rating first, hitch rating second, and then see how it tows. The 5500lb is well..... within the rating of the truck. If within the rating of axle, tires, and hitch I would try it out.
I've heard those 4-speeds can be kind of weak so you may expect to rebuild it after towing heavy but they can be rebuilt stronger as they are so well known.
He will have 4 children in the car and his wife. He will have all the kids/wife stuff. Do you believe he will be at PAYLOAD-or even slightly over? Payload is what the manufacturer recommends the vehicle can handle. What's so difficult to understand? There is a chance you will be sued for exceeding payload. Then you can take your argument to a jury. Explain how all the components work and how then you can ignore what the manufacturer recommends. It will be interesting-but chances are you will settle out of court. BTW-unless you have ever been to court, you really don't understand how this process works.
I think this horse has now been buried and I'm not digging it up again.
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