1994 Volvo Naturally Aspirated Redblock

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I've been reading BITOG quite a bit over the past few months and am starting to feel like the woman in this clip from "Airplane" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPugcb7QGE

We just added a 1994 Volvo 945 (naturally aspirated) with the B230FD (Redblock) motor and 150k miles when we bought it. I've since put about 3,000 miles on the car. The prior owner advised it had regular conventional-only oil changes, the valvetrain visible through the oil cap looked good with no visible sludge, and the dipstick oil didn't look terrible. Other areas of the car showed regular maintenance appeared to have been performed.

After I bought it, I dumped whatever was in the car and replaced with Valvoline Synpower 5w30 and a Bosch Premium FILTECH filter - these supposedly have good anti-drainback valves - on sale at Autozone. After about 2000mi on the SynPower, I replaced the Bosch filter with a Mann filter specified for the engine (in case gunk or other deposits worked loose).

The Volvo mainly does highway driving - either 100+ mi freeway slogs or a 15 mile freeway commute (ranging from 70mph to 20-40 mph). At around 70-75mph, the engine spins at about 2800-3200 RPM, so I assume it produces a decent amount of heat.

After reading a number of posts, searching the forums, and other peoples' experiences, I have some questions about what my next fill should be. My goal is to reverse any issues there may be and keep the Volvo in good running shape.

1. The valvetrain and dipstick look somewhat varnished - should I switch to something like Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra to clean the engine? Or just stick with a quality synthetic? I've put about 3000 miles on the car and can't detect any oil consumption yet. Should I add something like Kreen/MMO as well? FWIW, my fuel economy is in line with similar cars and the oil on the dipstick now isn't tar black.

2. In 1994, Volvo recommended 15w40 only for 'severe' use, however, would sustained high RPM driving require the use of a 40 wt. oil? Is it a good idea to use a modern 0w-40 or 10w-40 in the car for my next fill regardless? Or is a thinner oil better to increase the flow of oil throughout the engine? Would a thicker 30 wt oil like GC be worthwhile in this application?

3. Should I be using a diesel oil like Rotella T5 or T6? I've definitely gone down the rabbit hole of gas vs diesel oils and am unsure as to whether to use it or not. My gut is telling me that if Volvo wanted a diesel oil in the crankcase, they would have spec'ed it but many others swear by it.

4. Is synthetic even necessary for a Redblock (I read in a post somewhere that one person thought feeding expensive synthetic to a Redblock is like bringing Johnny Walker blue label to a frat party)?

Thank you for any input you may have.

My other cars are much simpler. I run Pennzoil Conventional in a 2011 Dodge Grand Caravan under warranty (Pentastar engine and meets Chrysler's MS6335) and Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w20 in a 2009 Honda Fit (went to syn at 55k, no issues as of yet, always changed conventional oil early at 30% of OLM to hopefully prevent any issues)
 
Originally Posted By: Red_Brick_Volvo
3. Should I be using a diesel oil like Rotella T5 or T6? I've definitely gone down the rabbit hole of gas vs diesel oils and am unsure as to whether to use it or not. My gut is telling me that if Volvo wanted a diesel oil in the crankcase, they would have spec'ed it but many others swear by it.


Do recall that 15w40 was originally specified, and that's hard to find in a PCMO - it's generally an HDEO grade. I used a lot of 15w40 HDEO in my Audi without problems. There's nothing wrong with Rotella or Delvac 1 for this application in the appropriate grade, either. Mobil 1 0w-40 or GC or RP 0w-40 or 5w-40 would also be very suitable for this application.
 
That's an ultra-reliable setup. We need photos! My first car was a 740.

T6 is rated for gasoline engines too. Use it without worry. It'll help clean things up too.
 
Thanks Bandito - I'll work on getting some photos. The clearcoat is starting to go, so its not the prettiest 945, but the body is rust free and in good shape.

Would an oil like Rotella T6 have better cleaning properties than PP/PU?
 
Just look up the exact engine in a major brand oil guide. Most owners of older Volvos use a 5w40 and there is no need to use a full synthetic unless you want to extend the OCI interval. Mann or Bosch oil filters are good.
It says "Don't use oil additives" in your handbook for a whole bunch of good reasons and if you want to clean out some minor sludge or varnish just change to a major brand High Mileage oil and keep the first OCI short. Don't use a full synthetic if you have a high oil consumption or any leaks.
 
Originally Posted By: Red_Brick_Volvo
Thanks Bandito - I'll work on getting some photos. The clearcoat is starting to go, so its not the prettiest 945, but the body is rust free and in good shape.

Would an oil like Rotella T6 have better cleaning properties than PP/PU?

Ha. The clear coat was shot on mine too. But, that thing just wouldn't quit.

Whether T6 cleans better or worse than PU, I don't know if anyone could really say. They're both good. I do appreciate that it can deal with a sooty diesel. To me that means some good cleaning power.
 
Originally Posted By: Red_Brick_Volvo
Thanks Garak - would there be any advantage to running a XXw-40 over a 5w30 for sustained highway driving?


That's hard to say, but I would suspect the manual lists a preference for a 40 grade for sustained highway driving. Some might say a 30 would be just as good, and possibly improve fuel mileage. I'd tend to stick with what the manual recommends.

If you like conventional, I'd use a 15w40. The manual probably recommends that down to around -15 C; at least that's what it did for the Audi. If you like synthetics, there are plenty of good 0w-40 and 5w-40 choices I listed (including the GC 0w-30). I found the advantage with synthetics in such an application is that you're not having to play with grades by season. You have the thickness you want at operating temperatures while still having good cold weather properties.

If it were me, it would be Mobil 1 0w-40, Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, or GC. The first and last are probably the easiest to obtain and at sensible prices.
 
I wouldn't use a 40W oil in the NA--it just doesn't get that hot. I'd probably use Pennzoil Conventional 10w30 and call it a day. It's a little thicker than the 5W30, but thinner then the 40W oils. If you wanted a cheap synthetic, Quaker State's 10W30 looks like a good buy for the money. I wouldn't pour any cleaners in there--I'd worry more about getting the other fluids changed: trans, PS, brake, rear diff, and I'd start changing vacuum hoses before they start giving you trouble.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak

That's hard to say, but I would suspect the manual lists a preference for a 40 grade for sustained highway driving. Some might say a 30 would be just as good, and possibly improve fuel mileage. I'd tend to stick with what the manual recommends.


The manual actually allows for a 30W oil with the turbo--10W30 in any temps, 5W30 up to a certain temp which I forget... And keep it mind this was for SJ spec. An SN 30W oil is plenty in this application. I never used anything thicker than 10W30 in mine.
 
3000 RPM isn't severe use. Your oil pump will be making plenty of volume and the pressure relief valve will be dumping quite a bit of 10w30 let alone 15w40. I'd rather have thick oil for lugging than for free spinning highway driving.

Flow is good news, particularly "south" of the pressure relief.

I've got a 91 940 Turbo wagon, BTW. (I guess you could call it a 945 if you want.)
 
Originally Posted By: JOD
The manual actually allows for a 30W oil with the turbo--10W30 in any temps, 5W30 up to a certain temp which I forget... And keep it mind this was for SJ spec.


Well, there you go. My Audi's manual had an overwhelming preference for 40 grades, with temperature limitations on things like 10w30.
 
How cold does it get where you are. If sub zero temps aren't an issue I'd use rotella conventional in either the 10w30 or 15w40 flavour. If you experience actual winter then either PP,GC,or M1 depending on what you want to spend.
Jmo
 
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