1 Week Review - 2025 Toyota Tacoma Hybrid Limited

Aside from feeling and sounding a bit like a Subaru, the turbo 4 is an excellent driver. It has plenty of grunt down low and doesn’t really have to shift much unless you just make it. Theres a boost gauge and it frequently taps 7.5 psi or more as it needs very quickly to provide what feels like a very even torque curve between shifts. Theres a lot of software tuning in play.

NVH is not smooth and subtle like the V6, but the driveline seems very well dialed in. It’s not lacking at all for low end response.

Have you tried running premium yet? Last couple tanks I've filled up with 93 and the butt dyno says it picked up a little bit.
 
I learned on two occasions that if a vehicle has problems the first 10000 miles get a buy back. They were problems constantly after that. At the min get an extended Toyota Warranty.
 
2025 Tacoma Limited, one week and 500 miles. Here’s the review after one week of ownership.

BLUF - I like the truck, very much. we traded our F150 XL for it and I’m coming from a large, quiet, excellent driving, highly capable half ton with gobs of space and well-sorted dynamics and tow/haul capacity.

The limited is mid-tier model. It slots in between the low trim, high value SR5 options and below all of the off-road and TRD offerings. It offers some tech and features which probably vary in real-world usefulness. It is clear that a lot of “brainstorming” went into the design - there’s a lot of “what can we do with what we now have” evidenced in the build. Frankly, I appreciate the drill, but be forewarned that this doesn’t mean you need or even want all those things. That said, here we go:

Drive Modes:

The taco has multiple drive modes - normal, comfort, sport, eco and custom. They all fiddle with the four following parameters: engine, steering weight (normal, sport), suspension (sport, normal, comfort), climate (normal, eco). The suspension setting seems to change low speed shock valving. Climate I think drops fan speed down a notch for AC in eco mode. Engine differences seem to be based on 3 different throttle curves. Between normal and eco I’ve not noticed much of a mpg difference, I’m driving mostly in eco.

Headlights:

Pretty Good! It’s a little harder to discern road texture with the typical high-temp LEDs everyone has now and I’m longing for an aux halogen low beam setup, which will probably happen for unlit country road driving done here daily. They do not provide as much “information” than the low temp HIDs and halogen combo setup I had in my previous vehicle. Focus is good, cutoff is sharp, distribution is quite wide. After a week, admittedly I’ve gotten more used to the higher color temp and it doesn’t bother me as much. I do a lot of dark driving on unlit streets and do have on the casual upgrade list, my favorite lighting upgrade which will include e-code halogen low beams in lieu of fog lamps.

Interior:

Storage space is limited in the hybrid. The traction and 12V batteries are under the back seat. The center console is about 6x8x8 inches and the glove box is about normal for a civic. There is a weird (or clever use of space) “moat” around the fore and starboard sides of the shifter where pens and things can fall. There is a “shelf” above the glove box which if you use it, will be handy and display your clutter. They did what they could with what they have - there’s not a lot of room to work with, considering it’s a RWD.

Seat comfort:

Less padding than a Toyota sedan, while also being better contoured. They are stiffer than the stock foam in a ford, but softer than the park-bench BMW. They are bolstered but also wide - similar probably in many ways to a Honda chair. For a guy in decent health, they feel good, and I found myself comfortable in a variety of different positions. No memory feature on the limited, which is suprising. 3 levels of heat, and probably a higher wattage than most vehicles on “high.”

Rear: the rear seat cushion is generously sized, the backrest is a little vertical. Headroom is adequate. The rear is usable if the front seats are set midway. If you like to stretch out in your driving position, the person behind you will suffer. However if the driver sets a more vertical seating arrangement, there is decent room for an adult behind them for 45 minutes or so. It’s better than the supercab F150 by comparison (not crew cab).

Steering:

Toyota really seems to have EPS nicely dialed in by now. I find the feedback good enough, return-to-center seems natural. It’s natural on the highway and smooth in parking lots.

Cabin noise: this is a different world from the tacomas of yesterday. It’s on par with the 2018 F150 we had. This taco has noise canceling in the stereo, so I can’t tell how much is the vehicle and how much is the electronics, but the end result is nice. HOWEVER, based on the amount of engine, turbo, and inverter noise that works its way into the cabin, I suspect it could be easily overwhelmed by tire choice. The oem tires are Michelin primacy street tires, which are inherently quiet. A set of mild all-terrains or even just an anything below a quiet highway tire could result in a lot of road noise, is my guess. These tires are too new to have started to harden up as well.

Suspension: I think Toyota gained a lot by moving to a trailing arm, coil sprung rear axle. It isolates the truck in a way that leaf springs dont, considering the typical jostling found in small trucks, I think this is a good move. It is also still firmly sprung with less give than I recall in by gen1 tundra, for instance if I stand in the bed and hop up and down. Even on “comfort” mode, the vehicle doesn’t flex the suspension much. Toyota seems to really count on the high profile tires (18” wheels, 65 series sidewall) and suspension bushings, to take the edge off the ride. I’m considering 17” oem take-offs as the chrome-plastic wheel cover is chintzy to my eye, but anything done there is a ways out.

Handling around town: This is a fun around town vehicle. It’s nimble. It has a lot of torque off the line. It is not afraid to accelerate, or stop. The chassis is communicative. Smaller than that F150, doors open nicely in parking spaces.

Handling on the interstate: well, it’s not as relaxed as a full size truck with the narrower track and shorter wheelbase (about 6” less track and 12” less wheelbase while only being 2” shorter). It’s busier to some moderate degree while it tracks well, but you can’t get around physics. Road noise is excellent for this size on the interstate, in stock form. Wind does push it around some.

Turbo four goodness: I like it. It is different from the 6. The 6 was a quiet, refined, “big” feeling engine, while the 4 feels like a 19 year old athlete. It’s a little raw, it’s a little buzzy, and it feels like it wants to grab and go. There’s torque for days and it’s happy to cruise at 70 at stupid low RPM (is that timing chain hydrodynamic at that low speed?). If you are experiencing the raw and buzzy sounds, you are probably asking it to move sportingly, and that’s part of the fun. The turbo is clearly audible and sounds weird as it defuels between shifts and gets modulated by the engine systems. No, this doesn’t feel like a well-refined power plant, but it does feel like a bit of a diesel with plenty of torque and some roughness around the edges. Our rav4 (NA) has a similar rawness to it. Game on. I like it and don’t feel like it’s a downgrade from the 6. It also doesn’t have to rev high for power.

Trans tuning. Shifts quick and gets out of the way. Hear me - this is a great engine/trans combo.

Hybrid system: there is a ballet between auto-start-stop, turbo lag, transmission shifts, and the hybrid system. I’d say this probably dials in similarly to Ram’s mild hybrid in nature. The taco hybrid pulses to start the engine and support changes in throttle position, perhaps providing that immediate pulse until the turbo catches. The engine will eagerly drop to neutral and shut down if power is not being demanded and the hybrid will briefly give a slight push, like “coast+1” but really won’t sustain the vehicle itself much. It can get to 7mph by itself with 1 egg under the pedal, 15 mph by itself with 2 stacked eggs under the pedal, and might carry itself at 25 on level ground with the cruise engaged. Traction battery hovers around 50% most of the time, providing transient bursts. If you happen to charge it to 80% with a downhill descent, it will spend the next 3 miles “bleeding off” energy by supplementing the engine on level ground at a less than 10% output rate, until it’s back down to 50%. It doesn’t tell you when and how much charge or regen it’s doing during downhills or deceleration, or at least I haven’t found a display for it, but it is not a significant contributor like the RAV4 or Prius system.

It will creep along in stop-n-go with majority of electric, which is helpful here.

I often read/study in parking lots or parks - and the battery will run climate control for a period of time.

Digital dash. Home run. Buried deep in the menus, you can select 3 different layouts (2 primary gauges, 3 zones, or a 1 central gauges, 3 zones, different themes to each, and assignable gauge features within each, or no dials and simply 3 zones of numeric readouts). You can fill that thing up with so much data you can’t see a thing. Oil pressure (seems low res but functional), oil temp, 12v sys voltage, engine temp, trans temp, coolant temp, fuel level, rpm, speedo, are all available. Plus driving aids information, infotainment messages, can all be put in front of you.

It’s got a number of tow-oriented things, but in all honesty someone who tows often will find the things as a gimmick. Trailer hookup and operation is a very manual thing and the dash seems like a toy.

Infotainment. Normal Toyota fare for these days. Good menu, usable system. There is absolutely no need for the larger iPad-sized display - it’s the same stuff you get on the 8” screen. The 8” is far, far more reasonable, especially for this sized cab. The large screen is a sad detractor from an otherwise wonderfully-laid out dashboard and is a crying plea to please someone enamored with their stinkin’ phone. You get it, i hate the screen. It’s the worst part about the vehicle, in that it simply doesn’t need to be there. It’s huge. It’s larger than double the instrumentation. Too much light at night, even when it is fully dimmed down. I’ve had it off 3 times during the first week, so that I can just drive (at night). If there ever becomes a “small screen mod” for this truck, I would pay $1,000 for it. Perhaps I could have found the combination of features I wanted with a smaller-screened taco with a special order, but they didn’t have such a thing on the lot and I was motivated to stop dragging the purchase process out and get something “good enough” within a narrow schedule. Done. But be warned, if you are considering one of these and have the time, study the feature availability in advance.

Hi FI - it’s certainly better than so many I grew up with. The sound is very “front” oriented. There’s some decent processing behind it. It’s not hi-fi but it’s also quite good for driving around in a truck. There is something like an 8” sub behind the back seat. It seems to communicate the kick drum without the tone of the bass guitar, so there are some psychoacoustics happening here to convince you it can thump while not having a full spectrum coverage. It’s hard in such small space. Anyone wanting to compete needs a bigger cab for room to handle behind-the-cone back pressure. They would achieve better tone with a smaller diameter sub with appropriate porting behind it, but then they will lose every SPL desire out there. I personally like the center dash speaker for spoken word clarity, and they seem to use digital processing to convince you that there is a stereo field, but imaging purists will probably balk. Also the center dash speaker is a rechargeable, removable Bluetooth speaker, which will provide some hints probably as to its SQ nature. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fun stereo which will keep us quite pleased on a road trip, but mark levinson it is not. Lexus it is not. The center clarity will delight spoken-word news and podcast junkies, and anyone who is not an automotive audio purist will probably delight in the practical use of the system. It is not “Bad” at all. It’s quite good, especially for the cabin. They spent some time with it. You would expect more at this price tag, but on the other hand, it is miles ahead of other Toyota stereos I’ve had in the past. Lexus is better here.

MPG:

I thought this truck was rated at 24/24/24 by the factory. I’ve seen as high as 25mpg average and typically see 20-21. It’s sitting at 20.7 average now, and I’m a conservative driver. Something is amiss. Apparently the mileage varies a lot based on the trim. This particular one is something like 23-21-22 or something close. I will try higher octane fuel for fun. Manual calls for 87. This is with the lower bumper dam attached. The bumper dam looks like the beard of Thanos (marvel character). Goodness, or like a 2WD F150 - it’s huge. You can’t unsee it. It is tall enough to clear a parking curb, just. Once I figure out a baseline mpg, it’s probably coming off for a comparison. Depending what Toyota did behind it, the truck may look far better without it. Thanos’ beard … there, you won’t be able to unsee that.

Toyota has traditionally made fuel-thirsty trucks and I did hope for better with the hybrid tech. One thing i learned is this model is always in some form of AWD. You can’t unlock the front axle. I’ve not figured out yet if the full time AWD is RWD with front-axle assist or a center diff in the T-case - modes are basically AWD, Lock, and Low. I’m fairly certain that’s a part of the reduced mileage. These trucks can be had i believe with 3 different types - 2WD, 4WD part time and AWD/4WD, and 3 different tire-rim size combinations.

Exterior:

Looks are in the eye of the beholder. There’s a lot of plastic on the exterior. The fender flares are snapped in, and that’s probably a wise move. The bed rail covers look like they will detach themselves quickly. The corners of the rear bumper are also molded plastic, but the owners manual indicates radars behind them, so they probably need to be. The entire front nose is plastic. the headlights are small and squinty.

Safety and driving aids.

It has many nannies and beeps. It has camera angles. I’m not accustomed to them so some I’ve left on and some ive turned off. Some are adjustable. The radar cruise is quite good. The only time I’ve seen it get confused is when someone in front of you changes lanes to a right exit lane and decelerates quickly - they go from 65 to 15 to make that turn, and this will absolutely nail the brakes and pull us down to 15 as well, which is bad on a 65mph road. It has two modes of lane management - one is a wheel-tug if you’re approaching the line, the other is a sort of hands-on auto-steer to augment cruise control. It’s weird to hold the wheel while it’s driving and i find it hard to trust because it is entirely dependent upon good eyesight and can miss things when lines disappear. From a habit-forming perspective, I see dangers in learning to rely on it, and yet i see it helpful as an aid … idk mixed feelings. Part of me thinks it needs to either be 100% foolproof, or it shouldn’t be relied upon. Maybe an old dog doesn’t like new tricks.

The bed

You read it here first. I’ve not seen this on a single professional review. “Man, that’s awesome that it came brand new with line-ex!” That’s what I thought. Get up under it, and the entire bed tub is composite - looks like a molded plastic/carbon composite. No kidding. Bed is plastic, thick plastic. Exterior fenders are metal. It’s not going to rust.

Cost cutting?

Rear bumper seems like someone lost a budget fight, yet high-lift jack points on both sides. That shows some thinking and market attentiveness? No engine cover. Cable and pipe routing under the hood is NOT typical Toyota - there’s stuff everywhere. (I LOVE that the hybrid puts the 12V battery beneath the back seat - it’s going to last a long time back there). Plastic bed is odd, but I’ve thrown concrete blocks back there and this didn’t reveal any problems. Buttons on the steering wheel feel a bit like a no-name solar calculator - they’ll probably last but they are not stout in material.

Daily liveability

For my use of about 90 minutes per day it’s great. I’ve had it a week, everything feels good. It’s taking me a while to get used to the features, and a number of them I’ve turned off. It’s phone-app-connected, and I want to like it and it seems to whisper nice things about being connected to your car, making it more personal - but I see a time when i delete the app. Is the app bad? No. My wife has it on her RAV4 and it has instilled car care I’ve never seen. She scheduled her own dealer service (several years free) because the app tells her she should and presents a calendar. Right there the app is useful!… but I’ll likely let the associated data subscriptions expire and be done with it.

I’m of average height and have had to slow down getting in and out, having banged my head 3 times on the upper glasses console (I’m still not sure how this happens).

Pedal spacing and dead pedal feel good. Dash is easy to read now that I’m getting used to all the stuff on it. Infotainment wants too many screen touches to be convenient, and I wish it would remember the last screen it was on.

It has a good feel of quality in how it drives and handles. It doesn’t rattle my teeth out but it isn’t gentle either. The interior is rather stylized with the branding, perhaps borrowing from the recently-over baked Jeep playbook, but it’s not as far as Jeep went. “Tacoma” lights on the eyebrows outboard of the headlights. It tells you inside and out that it’s a Tacoma. Any more and it would be a detractor. As it is, it is fine. The window sills have some padding in them - they are a mite bit high but you can rest your forearm up there. The padding is nice. Haven’t seen that in a while. It’s a shelf-surface and seems intentional. That’s going to be a high point to me as soon as the windows come down, fun!

Truck gets attention in parking lots - the baby brick (they are squared off) has good lines without bragging or inviting thoughts of overcompensation. Really, it’s rather small coming from a full-size. OEM motorized steps get comments. The truck is just high enough to need steps. I prefer metal bars but the electrics scream “up scale.” Mind you, this “upscale” doesn’t have memory settings for the seats or mirrors, which would have been more useful.

Speaking of useful, a larger fuel tank would be useful. The 18 gallon tank really doesn’t get it that far at 21 mpg. Consume down to 1/4 displayed, and it takes 12 gallons to fill it. So if you like to fill up at 1/4 tank, you have 12 gallons to work with, or 250 miles. I could start to complain … until crawling under it - and you will find there simply isn’t that much space to put one, and they filled most of what they have. Now, perhaps a low-paid summer intern would have been a wise move, because with some careful design work they could have gotten another 2 gallons of volume, maybe 3. And the intern would have gotten some great experience. I would pay for an upgrade here. Seriously, 250 miles per fill-up is poor. I recall VW used to place two 1-gallon auxiliary fuel storage tanks above each front wheel in the vanagon, supplementing the primary tank, amounting to 2.4 gallons added from that move. 2 plastic jugs and some rubber pipe, tested and approved. C’mon Toyota…. All that said, this one checks a lot of boxes and offers a nimbleness and everyday ease with a little sporting, play-ready handling - refreshing coming from a full size. I have enjoyed it enough that I have not missed the larger cab, windscreen or presence of my full-size predecessor. Long live the Taco.
Great review. Handsome Truck. Enjoy.
 
Update: 2400W inverter.

I don’t have the equipment to check if it is pure sine wave, or modified sine, but I do have power tools. My skilsaw requires a pretty hefty starting surge, and I have the trained ear of a recovering musician.

With a typical modified sine, the inrush of the skilsaw will be sluggish with noted overtones of hummmmm, compared to utility power. So I did a comparison.

I’m not convinced the Toyota is pure sine. After several back and forth comparisons, the skilsaw starts almost the same quickness and final load-free rpm, but it is ever so slightly slower on the taco, by just a hair. Now, it does not hum nor is it sluggish like a typical modified sine wave inverter, so i don’t think it is by any means exaggerating its rating, but there is *something* different between my utility (which reads 122V) and the truck.

There is almost nothing technical about this system documented on the interwebs right now.

The vehicle needs to be on, and the inverter switch activated. Engine will shut off until the traction battery gets low, then the engine will cycle on and off as needed and the battery will carry the load. Make sure the cabin AC is turned off if noise is an issue, as the condenser fan is on/off and quite audible (“hello 1986 escort”), not silent and multi-speed like literally ever other vehicle made today (really, Toyota?).

Will it run the skilsaw to cut wood? As it seemed 95% of utility power quality, I believe I could count on it to do it and do it well.

How’s the transmission?

It’s not BANGED or dropped out of gear again since that one event. (My dash still does random settings changes almost every day). But it does have a jeckyll and hide persona. Man, it’s not unlike the 10r80 I just got rid of, which had exceptionally great days, and then would lose its mind until receiving TLC or a reset. It’s mostly a quick shifting unit that stays out of the way. But two things upset it recently.

1. I tried the remote start the other day (it was hot) to see how effectively it precooled the cab. Neat feature, and the I4 doesn’t burn much gas for the luxury. I jumped in after about 4 minutes, hit the brake and button to say “mine,” and eased out. Is this the same car? <Whack> <thud> <bump> was the chorus line for the low-speed shifts until I was out on the highway. Then it was fine - grab a higher gear and let the turbo take us home.

2. Not the trucks fault, but I was literally run off the road by an inattentive driver on a blind curve on a 2-lane road. There was an approaching drainage ditch and tree line, and the ground was soft. I fully planted the brakes (abs) while S-waggling to bleed off as much speed as I could before nosing down into a pipe. It worked, I was fine (shaken, but not stirred), and all of us sat there for half a minute before pulling back out. Zero contact, zero bumps. But, it forgot how to downshift the rest of the day. I’m guessing the adaptives were thrown. <Whack> <thud> <bump>

I don’t think either present an actual problem. I think the software is just a little raw. This may just not be an elegant driveline in its first couple years of release.

On the plus side - the limited has full time AWD. This, combined with the eager takeoff, is outstanding in compact traffic. It’s similar to our RAV4H which will absolutely boogie if you need to pull out with confidence into traffic. The taco with AWD can launch and turn simultaneously in ways that RWD just can’t. You probably can’t take full advantage because of its height, but the driveline capability is indeed present. It’s defies years of truck ownership to see this kind of nimbleness in a truck. Well done. The same goes for tight merges - it’s a great little rushhour negotiator, and in this regard one of the best - and I run around in eco mode, not sport or even normal. Also note, manual downshifts in manual shift are met with excellent rev matching, as in, just as good as the Lexus GS we had a few years back.

-m
 
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Update: 2400W inverter.

I don’t have the equipment to check if it is pure sine wave, or modified sine, but I do have power tools. My skilsaw requires a pretty hefty starting surge, and I have the trained ear of a recovering musician.

With a typical modified sine, the inrush of the skilsaw will be sluggish with noted overtones of hummmmm, compared to utility power. So I did a comparison.

I’m not convinced the Toyota is pure sine. After several back and forth comparisons, the skilsaw starts almost the same quickness and final load-free rpm, but it is ever so slightly slower on the taco, by just a hair. Now, it does not hum nor is it sluggish like a typical modified sine wave inverter, so i don’t think it is by any means exaggerating its rating, but there is *something* different between my utility (which reads 122V) and the truck.

There is almost nothing technical about this system documented on the interwebs right now.

The vehicle needs to be on, and the inverter switch activated. Engine will shut off until the traction battery gets low, then the engine will cycle on and off as needed and the battery will carry the load. Make sure the cabin AC is turned off if noise is an issue, as the condenser fan is on/off and quite audible (“hello 1986 escort”), not silent and multi-speed like literally ever other vehicle made today (really, Toyota?).

Will it run the skilsaw to cut wood? As it seemed 95% of utility power quality, I believe I could count on it to do it and do it well.

How’s the transmission?

It’s not BANGED or dropped out of gear again since that one event. (My dash still does random settings changes almost every day). But it does have a jeckyll and hide persona. Man, it’s not unlike the 10r80 I just got rid of, which had exceptionally great days, and then would lose its mind until receiving TLC or a reset. It’s mostly a quick shifting unit that stays out of the way. But two things upset it recently.

1. I tried the remote start the other day (it was hot) to see how effectively it precooled the cab. Neat feature, and the I4 doesn’t burn much gas for the luxury. I jumped in after about 4 minutes, hit the brake and button to say “mine,” and eased out. Is this the same car? <Whack> <thud> <bump> was the chorus line for the low-speed shifts until I was out on the highway. Then it was fine - grab a higher gear and let the turbo take us home.

2. Not the trucks fault, but I was literally run off the road by an inattentive driver on a blind curve on a 2-lane road. There was an approaching drainage ditch and tree line, and the ground was soft. I fully planted the brakes (abs) while S-waggling to bleed off as much speed as I could before nosing down into a pipe. It worked, I was fine (shaken, but not stirred), and all of us sat there for half a minute before pulling back out. Zero contact, zero bumps. But, it forgot how to downshift the rest of the day. I’m guessing the adaptives were thrown. <Whack> <thud> <bump>

I don’t think either present an actual problem. I think the software is just a little raw. This may just not be an elegant driveline in its first couple years of release.

On the plus side - the limited has full time AWD. This, combined with the eager takeoff, is outstanding in compact traffic. It’s similar to our RAV4H which will absolutely boogie if you need to pull out with confidence into traffic. The taco with AWD can launch and turn simultaneously in ways that RWD just can’t. You probably can’t take full advantage because of its height, but the driveline capability is indeed present. It’s defies years of truck ownership to see this kind of nimbleness in a truck. Well done. The same goes for tight merges - it’s a great little rushhour negotiator, and in this regard one of the best - and I run around in eco mode, not sport or even normal. Also note, manual downshifts in manual shift are met with excellent rev matching, as in, just as good as the Lexus GS we had a few years back.

-m

Has the hybrid system crapped itself again yet?
 
Has the hybrid system crapped itself again yet?
No, aside from occassionally just having a “thunk” here and there it’s been steady, and I’ve been driving it a little bit harder to put it through some paces. That motor is eager to deliver.

Interestingly enough, I found a post online of the exact same occurrence, and like mine, it was in heavy rain. Exact symptoms and dash errors. In their case, they had more codes stored which enabled them to track it down to rainwater getting into a canbus connector to the grill shutters. It was raining and road-steaming heavily when it happened to me. I’ve tried to repeat the way I was driving a couple of times in a parking lot and it’s not done it, but those were dry days. Canbus interference….?
 
I'm dismayed that you are having issues after what you went through with your F150. Hopefully it is just a random isolated issue and I'm standing by with thumbs squeezed.

That's the German version of fingers crossed .:)
 
I'm dismayed that you are having issues after what you went through with your F150. Hopefully it is just a random isolated issue and I'm standing by with thumbs squeezed.

That's the German version of fingers crossed .:)
You are incredibly kind to say that, thank you. Some of my frustration is amplified by this is the first time I could buy *what I want*. Kids are finally grown and out of the house. Bills are paid. Saved some money intentionally for while, while nursing the ford along. If I’d had better experiences with the F150, I would have simply stayed with it or maybe traded the supercab for a full cab, but the ownership experience really had me frustrated with the brand.

Today I got off early and for kicks and grins test drove a bmw while letting them look at the taco. I was still glad to leave with the taco and hope it all sorts out (while switching the dash back to my setting for the 2nd time today). From there we got 4 2x4s and 3 sheets of 5/8” plywood.

Someone will ask so I’ll say it, the used market is not strong today for 4 cylinder tacomas. Incredibly not strong. As in, all of those stories about “got almost what I paid for it” do not currently apply to this year and model. I’m glad I left reminded of why I bought it.
 
Please keep sharing your experience. It’s really helpful to hear the good, the bad and the ugly. I expect to buy a Taco in a couple years and hopefully will still feel good about them then as I do now. This vehicle still could end up being the best you’ve ever had!
 
Long post, I'll chime in to add to it. Someone on my local Street has a TRD Pro model, all the off-road stuff! I love it!

Then I get home and I sit in my RAV4 hybrid and wonder where all my machismo has gone!

I should have never sold my 4Runner what a solid machine. 21 MPG at best with a Tailwind is why I sold it for the RAV4. Now I don't care about mileage! I don't drive much since retiring. I just can't justify the 58k for a TRD Pro
 
I've been rolling over the scales with 2900 pounds in the box. In a long box Silverado half on, on semi floater 6 bolts.

Would a 2025 taco fit my bill? I feel like I'm asking a lot out of a half ton already. You came from a f150, so I figured it was a fair question.
 
I've been rolling over the scales with 2900 pounds in the box. In a long box Silverado half on, on semi floater 6 bolts.

Would a 2025 taco fit my bill? I feel like I'm asking a lot out of a half ton already. You came from a f150, so I figured it was a fair question.
Oh, pics or it didn't happen. The world is stupid. I like how the body lines don't "line" up anymore..even empty. And the leaf springs look like recurve bows. Haha.

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I've been rolling over the scales with 2900 pounds in the box. In a long box Silverado half on, on semi floater 6 bolts.

Would a 2025 taco fit my bill? I feel like I'm asking a lot out of a half ton already. You came from a f150, so I figured it was a fair question.

Unless you have a trailer for that, no. Payload is around 1700lbs.
 
Long post, I'll chime in to add to it. Someone on my local Street has a TRD Pro model, all the off-road stuff! I love it!

Then I get home and I sit in my RAV4 hybrid and wonder where all my machismo has gone!

I should have never sold my 4Runner what a solid machine. 21 MPG at best with a Tailwind is why I sold it for the RAV4. Now I don't care about mileage! I don't drive much since retiring. I just can't justify the 58k for a TRD Pro
@mikeduf - rav4H is a fantastic vehicle, dont doubt it for a moment. I have found the driving dynamics of the hybrid version as far more fun and underrated than it is recognized for. It has the dynamics of a sedan but the torque and rear end assist is aggressive and will easily peel out during playful launches into the wild. Transmission tuning is eager. And you get close to 40 mpg.
 
FIGURED SOMETHING OUT. My dash was losing its settings 3-4 times per day. It’s very customizable on the limited. You can have 3 different “pages” you toggle between, each one set up with different settings. One of the pages was set with tire pressure. I happened to put it on something else, and all 3 started working better. It may change pages or settings 3-4 times per week now, but no longer 3-4 times per day. So bottom line, dont set the dash to display tire pressure.
 
I learned on two occasions that if a vehicle has problems the first 10000 miles get a buy back. They were problems constantly after that. At the min get an extended Toyota Warranty.

millerbl00......

The horror stories on new vehicles just keep piling up. Now paint peeling off in sheets.
Seems the manufacturers are all in a race to the bottom to see who can build the cheapest vehicle for the highest price.
Then they all but make it impossible for you to do a darn thing to it yourself.
People keep right on buying and rewarding this behavior.

I'm sure I'll get hammered for this but sometimes truth hurts.

No gloom or doom intended...just keeping up with automotive news and other automotive forums.
No way in hell I would buy a new vehicle these days. And yes, I could afford to.
To each his own.

The Tundras are all dropping their V8's and getting turbo V6's. (WTH?)

Meep...I wish you well. Nice looking truck and of all the new trucks out there...maybe the BEST choice.
 
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FIGURED SOMETHING OUT. My dash was losing its settings 3-4 times per day. It’s very customizable on the limited. You can have 3 different “pages” you toggle between, each one set up with different settings. One of the pages was set with tire pressure. I happened to put it on something else, and all 3 started working better. It may change pages or settings 3-4 times per week now, but no longer 3-4 times per day. So bottom line, dont set the dash to display tire pressure.

Yeah, I use the app to check tire pressure.
 
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