'02 Accord V6AT RLI ATF 7128 OCI 135062 Total

[benjamming]

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ATF used RLI ATF RLI ATF RLI ATF RLI ATF RLI ATF RLI ATF

Sample Date 2010-Jan-17 2009-Jul-16 2009-Apr-20 2009-Jan-19 2008-Sep-22 2008-Aug-16

Miles on oil 7,128 7,533 7,226 6,279 3,480 2,652

Miles on car 135,062 120,051 112,518 105,292 96,254 92,774

Make-up oil None None None None None None

% Tested Fluid 99% 97% 95% 92% 78% 63%

Lab: Blackstone Blackstone Blackstone Blackstone Blackstone Blackstone



Wear Metals:

Iron: 18 21 20 12 10 12

Copper: 40 49 40 33 17 10

Tin: 1 0 0 0 0 0

Lead: 6 2 1 5 1 1

Chromium: 0 0 0 0 0 0

Nickel: 0 0 0 0 0 0

Aluminum: 29 26 24 20 16 18

Titanium: 0 0 0 0 0 0

Silver: 0 0 0 0 0 0



Additive Metals:

Calcium: 276 289 294 270 265 230

Magnesium: 1 2 1 1 4 4

Zinc: 6 15 11 9 11 12

Phosphorus: 254 290 273 270 328 362

Barium: 0 0 0 0 0 0

Molybdenum: 0 0 0 0 0 0

Antimony: NT NT NT NT NT NT



Contaminant Metals:

Silicon: 7 7 7 6 5 6

Sodium: 5 6 7 7 8 8

Boron: 82 86 84 87 113 130

Potassium: 1 1 1 0 0 0

Vanadium: NT NT NT NT NT NT

Manganese: 0 0 0 0 0 0



Physical & Other Tests:

Viscosity 40C: NT NT NT NT NT NT

Viscosity 100C: 5.46 5.38 5.36 5.63 6.24 6.15

TAN: 1.4 1.4 1.3 0.9 0.3 0.8

Flashpoint: 390 350 375 365 380 400

Oxidation: NT NT NT NT NT NT

Nitration: NT NT NT NT NT NT

Water: 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Fuel: NT NT NT NT NT NT

TBN: NT NT NT NT NT NT

Insolubles: 0.2 0.2 0.4 0.0 0.0 0.0

Glycol: NT NT NT NT NT NT

VI: NT NT NT NT NT NT

Sulfate: NT NT NT NT NT NT


Drain & refill was also done at 127,934 miles with RLI ATF.
Shifts are pretty much the same.
No visible fluid leaks.
Magnet on drain is, of course, cleaned every time.
The fluid is (almost) all RLI ATF, but there is some fluid that has quite a few miles on it as a result of drain & refill.
This is pretty much the same report as last time but I'm not going to go to a longer OCI due to the massive shearing that Honda AT do in a short amount of time.

 

[Jim Allen]

Interesting stuff to us Honda AT owners, benjamming, thanks for posting. Have you installed an inline trans filter? I just did at the last change. I'm just wondering if a filter influenced those numbers for the better.

 

[benjamming]

I have not installed an inline trans filter. I have considered it though & believe that it would be beneficial somewhat but lack of fluid flow to certain areas & massive shearing are the real issues & those are design flaws. A filter might help it limp along further though.

 

[unDummy]

Reducing wear in the ATF and solubles can only help.

TAN reached its limit. Visc and flashpoint are climbing.

ATF is sheared thin. RLI needs to experiment with different VM's or VII's.