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Originally Posted By: dailydriver I believe he was referring to the MAJOR worldwide oil companies, and 'on the shelf' type additives which are so hated and despised on here. Millers is a specialty, 'boutique' oil company, and the WS2 they use (which DOES stay in suspension), is NOT a 'snake...

Originally Posted By: HerrStig If "modern additives" worked, the oil companies would use them. But some oil companies do use them and demand a price premium for their products for this exact reason - or does not Millers Oils use WS2 in their nanodrive gear and engine oils?

Originally Posted By: Trav Obviously there must have been concerns voiced about solid lubes or they wouldn't be saying this. Yes, but is it not so that the main concern with using solid lubes in motor oils is that they could fall out of suspension, agglomerate into larger particles and block...

FYI: Cera tec has been reformulated: http://www.liqui-moly.com/liquimoly/web.nsf/id/li_en_domb9p8jf2.html Some selected quotes from the press release: "The new formulas have made these two additives even more effective." "Cera Tech and Motor Protect reduce friction in the engine and thus...

Originally Posted By: Greasymechtech Fast acting vs slower acting antifreeze additives.... water movement....heat cycling..... ...cavitation damage, acids introduced into the coolant by exhaust gas leakage, motor oil contamination... Point taken, there are other things happening in a real...

Presumably, the voltage applied (and the resulting electrical current) accelerates the process of galvanic corrosion. Is it reasonable to assume that a fluid could the (relatively) best at preventing corrosion at low voltage but the worst when higher voltage is applied? In both cases, would it...

I am guessing that the results of the test reasonably accurately reflect the relative anti-corrosion properties of the fluids... The test could of course be improved by redoing the test with hot fluids as well, and by using the same alloys as are typically used in engines. The fact that cold...

Has this already been discussed? http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/263790-Antifreeze-Experiment-amp-Testing Now, if only someone would take the time and do a similar comparison with current formulations of anti-freeze (G12++, G13)...

For the record and FWIW, here is Liqui Moly's answer to my question on the differences between Ceratec and Gear Protect. The getriebeoil-Additiv mentioned by LM as similar to CeraTec is a Mos2 containing product... "The Liqui Moly GearProtect is perfect for brand new gear boxes or gear boxes...

Out of pure interest, does anyone know or can anyone make an educated guess on what this additive contains? In contrast to the openness with regard to e.g. Ceratec (=hexagonal boron nitride in carrier oil) Liqui Moly do not disclose the active ingredients in Gear Protect. According to the fact...

This should be of interest, some hard data that appears to confirm the potential corrosion issues with IF-WS2 as an engine oil additive: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a536171.pdf "The lack of improvement in fuel consumption, and flash point being driven out of specification, and...

I think this is worth a read: https://online.stle.org/STAFFLIVE/CMDown...e1-00bdc649ce72

Originally Posted By: Trav So why doesn't LM include it in their own engine oils? Europeans are use to paying high prices for engine oil another 10 Euro isn't going to matter. Thats a good question that only LM could answer. Maybe Ceratec really works but LM have calculated that their profit...

Originally Posted By: MolaKule The additive boron nitride is already an Additive in motor oils, either in esterified form or in colloidal suspension. Please could you provide some factual evidence for hexagonal boron nitride in colloidal suspension already being included as an additive in...

Have you all already read this paper from 2013?: http://www.mdpi.com/2075-4442/1/4/95/pdf (Nanomaterials in Lubricants: An Industrial Perspective on Current Research) The text below from page 97 is alarming, in particular if the conclusion also applies to Millers NT motor oils (containing...

Originally Posted By: ChiaroBlue Yes, I also noticed that hBN was less effective in this test as compared to MoS2. However, hBN did reduce wear compared to pure PAO(if not friction). I wonder what the reason for this is, does hBN not work well with pure PAO for example? It appears that this...

Originally Posted By: Trav They used the 4 ball test. This is Mobil's take on that. Quote: The 4-ball wear test is a test designed to evaluate the performance of a gear oil. The 4-ball wear test is not included as a part of any industry-wide recognized engine oil specifications (e.g. ILSAC...

Originally Posted By: MolaKule I think the summary and Figure 1 give the information you are looking for. Summary: Quote: The tribological effects of BN and MoS2 nanoparticles added to polyalphaolefin oil in piston skirt/cylinder liner tests were studied. The results showed that BN did not...

Originally Posted By: MolaKule Cera Tec by LiquiMoly is Boron Nitride in an oil carrier. Boron type components are already included in most motor oils. LiquiMoly Oil Additive by LiquiMoly is a suspension of SOLID MoS2 powders in an oil carrier. Better moly chemistries are already included in...