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I used the dorman pan... had a nice thick gaskets and 4 magnets... fit perfect.

I agree 100% about the warranty side of things... lifegaurd 8 AKA mopar 8&9 has a good enough record/reputation to be worry free for 100,000 km. Beside that there is the obvious "why would you mesh with something thats covered anyway". I think for most people the question becomes when my power...

I think we're getting hung up on the "actually blends it themselves". If a company develops a specific product with a specific blend of ingredients and then gets a patent on that blend/product... its irrelevant who they contract to mass produce it. If prego makes a spaghetti sauce and then hires...

You know this is becoming a sarcastic filled back and fourth... it was not my intention to offend or disrespect and I apologize as some of my posts were that way.. you opinion is as valid as mine

Lol..so i guess when a company formulates a fluid, tests it, fine tunes its specifications, and gets the patent on it.. it becomes not there product when they hire an outside facility to actually make it. If thats the case I guess every companies product made in China isn't actually that...

If you truly believe that valvoline, amsoil, motul, red line, pentosin, and the host of other established reputable companies would all put out a fluid without doing there own research/testing then ok. And if you truly believe ZF engineers actually took the time to test the fluids in there...

Fair enough guys, I wasn't trying to change the world... just offer people a potentially cheaper alternative... like I said if its not something you believe in or trust then don't do it.

Ok... if you say so

So I understand what you mean but its important to differentiate between having LOCKERS and having a system that has the ability in the right circumstances to temporarily lock. If you read the article about QDII you will see the last paragraph mentions that for example the system will...

Lol... they didn't "pass"... there all the same product "lifegaurd 8". My washing machine recommends only a certain soap... doesn't mean others won't work. Anyways everyone is entitled to do what they want... if your not comfortable using a different fluid then don't. Have a good day

Ya thats an awesome price for mobil 1

Well as I mentioned above several people (myself included) have sent samples of both lifegaurd 8 and valvoline maxlife to actual testing labs (Blackstone in my case) for non biased number based testing. I don't personally know the qualifications of the staff but given its there business I assume...

Lol...well when you say it like that..... ya I guess... ive just seen lots of people paying shops $50-$60 for regular oils changes and $100+ for full synthetic change. Thought might be helpful for those who weren't aware that some shops do allow you to bring your own oil. I used penzoil platinum...

That sounds like a very reasonable deal... ive never heard of CAM2 but $15 for bringing your own is a great deal

Not sure where you get your information but lifegaurd 8 fluid is absolutely made by ZF... the actual name of the fluid is ZF LIFEGUARD 8. The data sheet for the fluid clearly shows this... as does the patent. And why on earth would they "not make money" selling it? Companies don't sell anything...

If you can get a zf pan for $100 that's alot better than prices i could find in canada

Your filter is built into your pan... I recently learned about an aftermarket pan available for $30...which was amazing as it was way more before... I posted a thread about it called $30 zf pan... it includes the link to check out the pan.

The lab testing i was referring to is Blackstone lab results... so no not saying ZF has approved maxlife. But remember ZF makes there own fluid so of course there not going to be eager to approve a competitors product.

So if you watch section 2 fluids of the following video he explains/covers most of what your asking. I've never seen ZF say "don't flush" but it's a mute point on the zf 8 speed because you can't flush it due to the presence of a "thermostatic bypass valve in the cooling lines. The method I...

Lol... ya member donald mentioned similar experiences... not sure where you guys go, or if there just particularly honest at the place I go but not how it works there. You stay in your car and tv screens show you exactly what the guys are doing under the car and hood. But totally get ya if you...