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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Yeah, you've summed it up well. I would say that there is no doubt that there are plenty of examples of newer systems coming out that were either terminally flawed from day 1 or were an ok idea but had a number of false starts in implementation. This was also true throughout the "old days" as...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Sorry-- premature post in that last message! Beautiful bikes, and it's seriously cool to have a mix of old and new like that. Don't see the moustache bar and bar ends all that often these days-- I have that set up on a 1989 BS RB-1. What chainrings are you running? They look close in size...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Really nice! From 1994-2010, building up 1970's UJB frames (of any name-- Nishiki, Centurion, etc., etc.) was a huge hobby for me, and my whole basement looked like the repair area of a bike shop. Really fun, but I had a major advancement at work and I also moved, so everything bike related...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Agree with all that! Agree with this as well but note that I personally do not consider "point belaboring" to be a bad thing. I believe that complex, contentious issues can only be fruitfully addressed through long, deep debate over a long period of time. Some people enjoy the participation...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Nearly 50 years for me and definitely agree with all this-- and it's not just tires. I'm mostly a retro-bike kind of guy, but I don't contend that's necessarily better. Pretty much every component on modern bikes in improved over the old stuff, I just happen to like the charm and memories of...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Actually, that restatement is clearer, so I do think I understand it better. And that understanding gave me some pause because I had to think about it a bit as it put a different light on my original point. If I could re-summarize and add your point in post #6 that people are (presumably...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Yes, it was a question. Because the rest of your post clearly implies that, so I was asking for clarification. I understand, but I'm saying unless you get super-extreme (glass-smooth velodrome or cooled magma flows), that's actually not correct and I provided a link with evidence of that. Do...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Ok, yes, in the velodrome where the surface is glass-smooth, the cRR becomes the major contributing factor to tire drag. But are you then going to say that because of that very narrow surface-case, that virtually no one rides on, that all the data are wrong that show wider tires (of equal...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    That was always the conventional wisdom, but it turned out to not be true. Rolling resistance (as indicated by the dimensionless cRR) turns out to play a very minor role in tire drag and, surprisingly, there turns out to be no tradeoff to using wider tires when desiring higher speeds. Turns...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Yes-- true! That's why my numbers don't add up to 100%. Drivetrain + Misc is probably in the 3-5% range. I'm a classic '70s Suntour Super-6 freewheel guy, where I get 6 gears in the same space as the standard 5-gear freewheel and the resulting 120mm dropout spacing. With modern offset spoke...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Yes, the extra gravitational force on the heavy guy will tend to allow him to overcome air drag in the way a baseball compares to a whiffle ball. But just to be clear (in case you were making this point), that extra weight is mostly due to the rider-- differences in bicycle weights don't make a...
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    Yes, wind resistance is huge as it goes up by the cube of the speed. So, I should have been more precise with my language, so let me re-frame: "If rolling‑resistance power goes up by 50%, the rider does need to supply 50% more power for that component."
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    Bicycle Tire Watt Requirements

    @Nessism1 Here are some data to back up my statement that, depending on the tires compared, the difference in absolute watts needed could be up to 50%. They are from Jan Heine's nicely-generated, well-controlled, long-term, highly respected data as published in Bicycle Quarterly over two...
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