When I switched my SHO over to GC from 10w-30 GTX; I noticed nothing. Perhaps the engine was a bit smoother up top, but otherwise...nah
Same on my '00 Monte 3.8, maybe a little quieter, maybe, but no power difference.quote:
Originally posted by Virtuoso:
When I switched my SHO over to GC from 10w-30 GTX; I noticed nothing. Perhaps the engine was a bit smoother up top, but otherwise...nah
Glad to see this post resurface again. I found out later that the NEON engine is the only one left that runs the crank into the pan, or without a windage tray. The Northstar is doing just fine on the GC at the moment. The sluggishness went away and stayed away after the second oil change.quote:
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Originally posted by JohnnyG:
I think it depends a great deal on engine design. My Northstar (99 STS) felt pretty sluggish after starting with the GC. I have been keeping it at the "ADD" mark, most oils seem to do well right there. I would need to keep adding a couple of ounces after each 300 mile trip. This is the only thing this car is used for, highway trips. This last 300 mile trip, I left it at the bottom of the dipstick, about 1/4" below ADD, and the difference is remarkable. My gas mileage is back up to 26.5 - 27 highway (after 24 - 24.5) and it feels like about 20 more HP. Used absolutely NO oil this last trip. The oil now has 5000 miles on it (55000 on motor) and it may just have sheared down. I also noticed that it was somewhat dirtier suddenly, and I do mean suddenly as I check it every trip and it has looked clean to this point. Could there be such a thing as resistance to "tearing" or "aeration" that might be noticable if the crank is running in oil that might be more noticeable in some engines?
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I'd hate to think of any modern engine that has a crank low enough to "dip" into the sump. Without a windage tray you can get excessive oil on the crank but it shouldnt aerate, just slows the crank down a bit. I could be wrong but you'd have to be a pretty dumb automotive engineer to produce an engine like that. Just my guess.
Has anybody noticed that the SLX produced the highest number and size of metal particles in oil filter in this study. What the ****?quote:
Originally posted by zoomzoom:
speaking of difference betwwen GC and M1..If the thickness of GC over M1 10W-30 is to blame for power loss how would you explain this then?
M1 0W-40 produces more power then lighter weight GC 0W-30???
CASTROL SLX 0W-30 SYNTHETIC
RPM 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
Ft-lb 262 290 301 293 272
HP 149 193 229 251 259
Maximum HP: 263.7 @ 4900rpm
Maximum Torque: 314.2 @ 3750rpm
Oil temp: 175FOil pressure: 43-55psi
Water temp: 186F
MOBIL 1 0W-40 SYNTHETIC
RPM 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
Ft-lb 268 311 304 300 283
HP 152 207 231 257 269
Maximum HP: 270.5 @ 4950rpm
Maximum Torque: 318.3 @ 3700rpm
Oil temp: 206F
Oil pressure: 52psi
Water temp: 190F
http://www.performanceoilnews.com/oils_against_oils.shtml
I really don't know how you would do this test and have it work if you tried to normalize for oil temperature. Different oils do show large variances in oil temp with everything else remaining the same. What to do?quote:
Originally posted by RobZ71LM7:
Their test is non-scientific. Look at the difference in oil temps-a 31* difference. Factor in the variance in most dyno's and there you go.quote:
Originally posted by Idrinkmotoroil:
I cant comment on the HP tests, but it didnt surprise me to find them ranking Amsoil as #1 oil with the sponsorship clearly displayed.quote:
Originally posted by zoomzoom:
speaking of difference betwwen GC and M1..If the thickness of GC over M1 10W-30 is to blame for power loss how would you explain this then?
M1 0W-40 produces more power then lighter weight GC 0W-30???
CASTROL SLX 0W-30 SYNTHETIC
RPM 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
Ft-lb 262 290 301 293 272
HP 149 193 229 251 259
Maximum HP: 263.7 @ 4900rpm
Maximum Torque: 314.2 @ 3750rpm
Oil temp: 175FOil pressure: 43-55psi
Water temp: 186F
MOBIL 1 0W-40 SYNTHETIC
RPM 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000
Ft-lb 268 311 304 300 283
HP 152 207 231 257 269
Maximum HP: 270.5 @ 4950rpm
Maximum Torque: 318.3 @ 3700rpm
Oil temp: 206F
Oil pressure: 52psi
Water temp: 190F
http://www.performanceoilnews.com/oils_against_oils.shtml
The HP tests could likely be correct, I think it comes down to friction modifiction of the different oils. Royal Purple has often been listed as having positive effects on HP, there was a test in Hot Rod magazing a year or so ago where some muscle car gained a large amount of power after they swapped Royal Purple fluids in the engine and tranny and diff. I guess its possible if the friction levels are different.