what to do with old antifreeze

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What do you with old antifreeze? I called allaround and no one takes it. I ve heard it mentioned to dump it in the toilet and it should be ok.
 
Most places it is fine to dump it down the drain...it's actually GOOD for the sewage treatment process.
 
Use a sanitary drain, which would be anything inside your house, the toilet, laundry tub, kitchen sink, etc. You never want to use the storm sewer.
 
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You never want to use the storm sewer

What is a storm sewer
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And if I have a septic system, is that OK too?
 
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Originally posted by ZmOz:
Most places it is fine to dump it down the drain...it's actually GOOD for the sewage treatment process.

UH........NO.... A gallon or 2 here and there won't even register here at the plant but,if everyone dumped their used anti-freeze down the toilet I would be in a world of hurt...Helping the treatment process,no way jose!!!!!! If you have a septic tank DON'T DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!
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If you are on a sewer system, call your city sanitation department and ask them. Some will say fine, others not. May depend on their system and its capacity.

My community has an annual household hazardous waste drop off day that takes antifreeze, gear lube, ATF, pesticide, naval jelly, etc.
 
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What is a storm sewer
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On paved roads with curbs, you'll normally see sewer grates to collect storm runoff when it rains. These typically run directly into a nearby creek, stream or river and are NOT treated. You would certainly not want to put antifreeze down such a drain. I would also not put it into a septic tank. You'd probably kill a bunch of the good bacteria and contaminate the soil in your yard.
 
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Originally posted by Razl:

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You never want to use the storm sewer

What is a storm sewer
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And if I have a septic system, is that OK too?


The thing in front of my house that clogs every dang rain and floods the street in front of my driveway causing me to have to run out during the storm and rake off all the tree crap!
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OK rant over.

What do you guys do when you flush the system? Do you let all that water drain into the sewer or are you collecting at hauling all that water to the recycling center?

-T
 
Some will argue this but sometimes dilution is the solution to pollution. When you dump it down the sanitary drain, do it in increments. Like one gallon in the toilet, then flush. Then another gallon, then flush, etc. etc. If you dump it all at once or if everybody did, then you would shock treat the local waste water treatment plant and that wouldn't be good for anybody.
 
you are supposed to dispose of it down the drain.

not on the ground, in septic system, or in a storm drain, then you're just polluting.
 
My local dump takes it for FREE as well as oil, paint and other household stuff. Do a local search. Call some local shops and dumps. It will kill weeds and stuff but if everyone did it I think it would be bad for the enviroment.
 
I can sympathize with all of you that have limited disposal sites but the down the toilet method is really harmful to the wastewater treatment process,having little or no regard for the consequences for your actions is dispicible to say the least...The job at the other end of your toilet is not easy and the ultimate outcome of failed treatment processes is dirty rivers,oceans and lakes....Give a hoot don't pollute..
 
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Originally posted by sewerman:
but the down the toilet method is really harmful to the wastewater treatment process,having little or no regard for the consequences for your actions is dispicible to say the least...

Again, MANY cities specifically tell you to dump it down the toilet. Obviously it isn't that bad. And as you said, a few gallons down the toilet will have absolutely no effect in the billions of gallons of sewage down the line.
 
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Originally posted by sewerman:
I can sympathize with all of you that have limited disposal sites but the down the toilet method is really harmful to the wastewater treatment process,having little or no regard for the consequences for your actions is dispicible to say the least...The job at the other end of your toilet is not easy and the ultimate outcome of failed treatment processes is dirty rivers,oceans and lakes....Give a hoot don't pollute..

Just a bit dramatic here aren't we?

Ultimately, CHECK WITH YOU LOCAL AUTHORITIES. In my area, recycling is encouraged, but not required. If you can't or won't recycle, running it down the sanitary drain is recommended and encouraged, including by the operators of the sewage treatment facilties. Large volume genrators (ie: auto shops) are required to recycle.

Do not drain it on land, into a septic system, into storm drains, or into systems that don't allow you to do so. The vast majority of sanitary systems however, are OK with the practice.
 
No not really..I have to deal with the "normal" stuff that comes down the pipe which causes enough problems in itself..Now when half the town is dumping their used anti-freeze down the drain it throws another monkey wrench in the works...Hey if your town/city says okay then go right ahead,but in my neck of the woods it's not...Sorry for taking my job of cleaning up water seriously....It was also stated don't dump it on the ground or storm drain as it may contaminate the ground or local stream or river..Well what makes it any different when you flush it??? Think it magically disappears???It needs to be removed and disposed of or recycled properly,just cause it gets dilluted doesn't make it go away....
 
If you are allowed to dump it down the drain and your community is on a combined sewer system (that's where the storm water drains go into the sanitary sewer--typically an older community), you should NOT dump it during or for some time after storms as many combined systems get overloaded during storm events and a relief valve opens up releasing raw diluted (diluted by the storm water) sewage to the water way (because if the relief valve does not open up, it goes back up the line into your basement
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). If this happens we don't want the antifreeze also going out the relief valve.
 
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Originally posted by sewerman:
No not really..I have to deal with the "normal" stuff that comes down the pipe which causes enough problems in itself..Now when half the town is dumping their used anti-freeze down the drain it throws another monkey wrench in the works...Hey if your town/city says okay then go right ahead,but in my neck of the woods it's not...Sorry for taking my job of cleaning up water seriously....It was also stated don't dump it on the ground or storm drain as it may contaminate the ground or local stream or river..Well what makes it any different when you flush it??? Think it magically disappears???It needs to be removed and disposed of or recycled properly,just cause it gets dilluted doesn't make it go away....

I'm glad you take your job seriously. I take mine seriously too as a water resources engineer.

One comment though - sewage treatement does not merely "dilute" antifreeze, at least not in any facilty I've seen. Antifreeze is instead digested using biochemical processes that physically breaks it down. It is the same process that nearly all other sewage is treated with. To say antifreeze only gets "diluted" at a sewage treatement plant is incorrect.

Of course, the danger is that too much antifreeze can exert too strong of an oxygen demand that can throw the sewage treatment process out of kilter.

As an interesting item, ethelyne glycol and propylene glycol (the two main ingredients in car antifreeze) are the two most common materials used for aircraft deicing operations. The way our airport deals with the material is dilution - it is discharged at a rate the river can safely digest it.

My only point is while your system may not allow you to drain antifreeze into it, the vast majority of systems do allow it. I'd much rather that people dispose of it in the proper manner, which to many is to drain it down the sanitary system, than just randomly dump it out on the ground or into the storm drain. While dilution can and does also work in many cases, a controlled digestion process that ensures it gets broken down is much more desirable.
 
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Originally posted by MNgopher:
As an interesting item, ethelyne glycol and propylene glycol (the two main ingredients in car antifreeze) are the two most common materials used for aircraft deicing operations. The way our airport deals with the material is dilution - it is discharged at a rate the river can safely digest it.

So they have a runoff collection/holding system that can then decant at the appropriate rate? Interesting. So then maybe my advice is not necessary, that is, maybe a little bit going out with the combined sewer overflow is not an issue?
 
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