Hyundai 2.7L...interference engine?

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I have a Hyundai Santa Fe with the 2.7L V6. It recommends a timing belt change at 60K miles which is quite expensive. My question is this: if the belt breaks will it damage the engine? I know that in some engines the belt can break with no damage, and in others it will cause terrible damage. Any idea which the 2.7L is?
 
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Originally posted by mrdctaylor:
I have a Hyundai Santa Fe with the 2.7L V6. It recommends a timing belt change at 60K miles which is quite expensive. My question is this: if the belt breaks will it damage the engine? I know that in some engines the belt can break with no damage, and in others it will cause terrible damage. Any idea which the 2.7L is?

It will damage the valves. Plus you have to do it to keep the 100K powertrain warranty
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Brian
 
Well, I'm the 2nd owner so I only get a 60K warranty. But still, thanks for the answer.

I wonder if 60K is wayyyyy overly cautious. It sounds like it might be. Every 100K miles sounds more reasonable--especially for something that is reported to cost in the neighborhood of $600 at the dealer.
 
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especially for something that is reported to cost in the neighborhood of $600 at the dealer.

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Just one more reason I'm glad both of our vehicles have timing chains. $600 is REDICULOUS for a TB change!
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My suggestion to you is to do whatever it says in the manual or maintenence schedule. If it is an interference engine, which is sounds like it is, if the belt breaks you will be in trouble. And out way more than $600. If the belt breaks it could damage; valves, cams, and pistons.

I have to have my Accord done here soon for the second time. Its about $1K at the place I take my car too. But they change out the water pump and accessory belts. Worth it to me.
 
I don't know about your Sante Fe but I have quite a bit of experience with timing belts. Every timing belt i've replaced a 60k looked like it could go another 60k or more. I have 120k on my festiva's and if it wasn't for the timing belt tensior squeeking I probably wouldn't change it till 200k or longer, i'd just check it every 20k and replace it when it needs it. I do have a non-interference engine though. Alot of it is that if you have it done properly the timing belt tensior and water pump will be replaced at the same. So if the timing belt doesn't break and your water pump goes, you get the picture. I don't know how hard it is to replace on yours but on all of the festiva's, aspires and escorts it's been some what simple, compared to changing sparkplugs on my 5.4. Eric
 
Yeh, it sucks having a belt, but it seems like so many manufacturers are going to belts these days. I dunno.

I may take my chances at around 100K miles. I've had several engines with belts and changed them at around 100K and never had one break on me. I know every car is different, but still...

I know it is gambling, but I'm betting they will last until 100K because in California (due to some law) Hyundai does not require the belt to be changed out at 60K to keep it in warranty.
 
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Originally posted by JMG:
I have to have my Accord done here soon for the second time. Its about $1K at the place I take my car too. But they change out the water pump and accessory belts. Worth it to me.

$1000?!?!?!?
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Where are you getting that work done? I've got a '95 EX 4-cyl., and my dealer quoted me $630 for timing and drive belts, water pump and coolant change. Independant mechanics around here charge between $300 and $400 for that same service. $1000 seems WAAAAY to pricey!
 
The OEM belts (timing and serpentine) are both Gates. I have always had pretty good luck with Gates belts. I'm sure they could go way over the 60K, but for me I'll have to get it done to keep the warranty.

On another note, I wonder how good the warranty really is? I would like to see some numbers of people who have had drive train problems and the warranty didn't cover them. The 100K thing seems to good to be true. We bought the Santa Fe because my wife fell in love with it, not for the warranty.

I just reminds me of when my aunt had her old Dakota and had some tranny trouble. She had an extended warranty on the power train. The dealer told her that it wasn't a power train issue and she had to pay. I wonder if Hyundai would do the same?
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Your best bet would be to take it somewhere other than the dealer, I'm sure it would be cheaper. You could always learn to do it yourself?

Brian
 
I have 74k on my 92 mits timing belt interference engine. changed in 5/97 too. I took a look at it, no cracks at all. still looks good. I drive very conservative in this car too. I have a friend with a 96 toyota corolla 1.6L 115k miles, he drives WOT all the time and he has never changed his timing belt. he's ignorant about cars and doesn't maintain it because he's cheap. When his belt breaks, I'll change mine.
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Originally posted by mrdctaylor:
Yeh, it sucks having a belt, but it seems like so many manufacturers are going to belts these days.

The trend is away from belts, for the most part. Examples include the GM Ecotec DOHC 2.2L I4 engine which uses a chain, Ford's Duratec 2.5L and 3.0L DOHC V6 engines which use a chain (and have for the last 10 years), their newer Duratec HE 2.3L DOHC I4 uses a chain too. I think Toyota switched their 3.0L DOHC V6 over to a chain a few years ago, as well.
 
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Originally posted by mrdctaylor:
Well, I'm the 2nd owner so I only get a 60K warranty. But still, thanks for the answer.

I wonder if 60K is wayyyyy overly cautious. It sounds like it might be. Every 100K miles sounds more reasonable--especially for something that is reported to cost in the neighborhood of $600 at the dealer.


Get it done somewhere else.

You don't have to get it done at the dealer.
 
$375 for a 1998 Civic.....includes (Timing belt, water pump, 3 drive belts, new coolant and labor) Plus I got a 'loaner' car for the day for free.

Call different dealers for quotes for a TB change, you will be surprised at how much it differs from one dealer to another.
 
I had the belts changed on my Hyundai Accent not too long ago. Same deal, an inteference engine and the belt has to be changed by 60K miles. Dealer quoted me about $500, and they don't change the idler and tensioner pulleys.

I bought the parts from Advance Auto for about $130 (timing belt + three accessory, and the camshaft idler/tensioner pulleys), a local garage installed them for about $180.

I can't imagine your SantaFe would cost a whole lot more than that. The belts are probaly easier to get to than in my accent.
 
conservative or not, it seems silly to me that people are trying to avoid a PM item that can very well have more effect on an engine's life than any other.

$600 is a lot less than an engine. You may well get 100k out of a timing belt. You may get a LOT more. VW TDIs I believe used to have a 60k belt, and now theyve been upgraded to a 90k belt.

If the money is that much of an issue, find a well-qualified mechanic (not pep boys or the equivalent), who knows your car. If you can afford it, id suggest you do it regardless of how good the belts are. Nobody is forcing you to go to the stealer. If you cant afford it, youve got other problems.

My mother's 85 colt vista had the belt go at ~75k. She had her 91 colt 2dr done at ~60k, and it looked fine. She had her 97 plymouth breeze done at ~60k and it was a-ok too. all of these cars have had 5 block commutes 6 times a day, and an occasional long drive of a few hundred miles.

Im sure the 85 had a lower-tech/quality belt than the newer cars, and I guess she didnt realize it needed to be done (I dont think my father's 79 plymouth champ had it done in its 10 years/100k miles of ownership and commuting). Highway cars probably dont need it as much, but oxidation and time still takes its toll. I read somewhere that the greatest forces on belts/chains are at startup. The more startup, the shorter the life.

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Independant mechanics around here charge between $300 and $400 for that same service.

You're lucky. The places around here that I would trust to do a good job cost almost as much as the dealer.
 
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Originally posted by mrdctaylor:
I may take my chances at around 100K miles. I've had several engines with belts and changed them at around 100K and never had one break on me. I know every car is different, but still...

Hmm... let me put this into perspective for you.... timing belt change, even at $630 bucks, is much much cheaper than a new engine. You're playing the Russian Roulette with this one. If I were you, follow the schedule, get it changed at 60K, that way, you will never be stranded with a dead engine with your family in the car, or if an emergency were to arise, you would want to make it there right?
 
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Not to thread jack but I'm stupid about engines so I was wondering what is an interference engine and whats the difference from other engines?
 
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